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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:46 AM
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Poll question: Binary Nader Supporter/Non-Supporter Poll
Given the events of 2000 and 2004, I have a question for those who used to be, and perhaps still are, Nader supporters.

Could you picture yourself voting for him again sometime in the future, or are you fairly permanently disenchanted with the guy.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:11 AM
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1. Hopefully he'll be too old by 2008 to run
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 03:11 AM by bluestateguy
I do not blame him for Kerry's loss in 2004 (let's get that out of the way first), but I waited and waited and waited for him to drop out last year and endorse Kerry. I waited on election eve, and still it did not happen. Nader is not a team player, and is indifferent to his impact on the 2000 election and all of the hell that has been unleashed since then. It's not like he suffered anything in the Bush Administration.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:17 AM
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2. I wonder why he seems more critical of Dems than Repubs at times
Is it because a person tends to be more critical of something when they see the potential for something better in it as opposed to a lost cause? Or is he actually more anti Dem than anti Repub?
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:36 AM
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3. I was thinking binary as 01001010
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:41 AM
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4. I was thinking binary as in yes/no
He's number one, or he's a zero in people's books.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:43 AM
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5. Nope, never again.
2000 was the one and only time for me.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:55 AM
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6. What turned you off exactly
or was it not a matter of being turned off but of being pragmatic?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 04:16 AM
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7. I guess it was his unwillingness or inability
to grasp the gravity of the situation with respect to the Chimp administration, and his insistence on putting his own ego ahead of the common good.

I wasn't so much a Nader supporter in 2000 as I was turned off by Gore, so I wasn't really that informed about him. The more I saw of him this time around, the more he looked like an out of touch megalomaniac. I was just really desperate to get rid of Bush and Nader seemed to be doing everything that he could to get him a second term.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 08:54 AM
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8. What if Hillary is the 2008 nominee?
Our political system is neither free nor democratic. The fix is in!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:14 AM
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9. My main litmus test..
... for any politician is this.

In a pinch situation, do they do what is right for America, or what is right for them?

Leaving aside the determinations of "what is right", most politicians eventually fail this test, and on some level that is to be expected.

But Ralph not only failed the test, he crashed, burned, caught the country on fire.

There's no point in arguing about 2000 any more. It's really too bad, Ralph's basic message is 100% correct, but he will never be the messenger with any power to do anything about it.
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:48 AM
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10. I like Nader
Nader gets it that our entire system is corrupt. That is, controlled by corrupt corporate power. I think Nader has seen the shift of the Dem party from being representative of "we the people" to being more and more another arm of the Corporate party. He's been warning us of the same thing his entire political career and it must be extremely frustrating to essentially have his warnings ignored.

I voted for him in 2000 - like many others, by 2004 I was so freakin' scared of the * Regime that I would have voted for any Dem. I think Nader knows that any establishment politician is going to be more of the same as far as continuing corporate control and he refused to acknowledge that the * Regime is a different brand of evil - far beyond the concept of the lesser of two evils.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:55 AM
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11. BFEE tool since at least 2000. Irrelevant in 2004, in spite the MSM
propping him up - and polling for him instead of other candidates (taking from W) who were running IN ALL STATES. Nader got all the publicity, money and dirty tricks from the GOP in 2004, yet not even Diebold found him on the map this time.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:18 AM
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12. separate the message and the messenger
on the issues, Nader "gets it" better than most Democrats do ... i'm currently reading "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" ... our entire government is totally owned and controlled by the corporatocracy ... there is NO OTHER ISSUE ... playing little political games between Democrats and Republicans will not get at the root of the problem ... i firmly believe Nader understands this ...

Is he an egotistical asshole who's done great damage to the left and to the important message he's trying to deliver ... you're damned straight he has ... he's an awful politician and should never have run for office ...

i'm very concerned with polls like this because they fail to emphasize the important message Nader is trying to convey ... Nader is driving in exactly the right direction but he's doing it in a Corvair, which as he himself once said, is "not safe at any speed" ...
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Raised_In_The_Wild Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:43 PM
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13. binary? I guess you meant trianary?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:58 PM
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14. Well... I just didn't wanna leave anybody out
I'm a big tent-er. (cheesey grin)

And I suppose, when you think about it, and include a multitude of "others" it's not even trinary.

It's .... er... multinary?

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