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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:13 PM
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Leiberman HAS GOT TO FUCKING GO!!!!! (He's Caving on SS)
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 01:14 PM by Beetwasher
He's talking about making a deal re: SS. We must kick this fucker out in the primaries. What a disgusting piece of shit. I'm sorry, I've never really participated in the Lieberman bashing, but this is the last straw. LIBERMAN MUST BE DEFEATED IN THE NEXT CT PRIMARY. THIS MUST BE A DEM PRIORITY. HE MUST GO. END OF STORY.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:18 PM
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1. joe needs to go. Perhaps this will wake up the voters/ party to kick
his ass out.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:48 PM
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22. he sold his soul to bush --- you are forgetting "the kiss"
he has been "puchased"....
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:21 PM
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2. He not only needs to go,
He needs to be made an example of because he doesn't represent Democratic goals or values. It still freaks me out that Gore chose him for VP.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:22 PM
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3. I agree wholeheartedly
Zell Miller the 2nd must get the boot!!!
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:25 PM
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4. I will donate to that cause!!! Fuck that DINO! Wake up CT.!!!!!!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:25 PM
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:28 PM
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8. Really? Care To Explain Why?
:eyes:

I think you're in the wrong place, Chester.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:39 PM
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17. Postman will soon be returned to sender
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:56 PM
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26. He's now in the Dead Letter Office

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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:36 PM
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13. I've stuck up for the guy before, but I'm at the end of my rope with him.
If he really does cave (and I think we might be a tad premature in claiming he has) on SS, then I'd support a loud, noisy, early 2006 primary challenge.

It's high time this party showed some damned discipline.

In the meantime, Reid needs to move Joe and his staff to a broom closet and pull him from any committees he's on, if Joe doesn't straighten up pronto.
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ConservativeDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:28 PM
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40. Mega-dittos from me...
Democrats can disagree among ourselves over whether corporations are the evil to end all evil (or not), or if we should always blame America first (or not). But Social Security really is the defining characteristic of the party. If Joe plays kissy-face with Bush over that, then he can go to Zell.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:37 PM
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16. And why's that?
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:25 PM
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6. Here's Lieberman's contact info.
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 01:26 PM by CBHagman
Contact Information


Time to apply pressure, no?

www.lieberman.senate.gov/
Washington DC Web Mail Address:
www.lieberman.senate.gov/co ...

Washington DC Address
706 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510-0703
Phone: 202-224-4041
Fax: 202-224-9750

District Address - Hartford
One Constitution Plaza
Seventh Floor
Hartford, CT 06103
Phone: 860-549-8463
TollFree: 800-225-5605 In CT
TTYD Number: 860-522-8443
Fax: 860-549-8478

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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:26 PM
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7. He's Repuke Lite.....
on steroids.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:29 PM
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9. I am fairly generous with time and the checkbook
But I have two litmus test issues-- absolutes ----> hair trigger ---> preemptively launch on warning.

1. Stem cell research and access to therapies developed by stem cell research.

      Obviously acce$$ to health care, too


2. Social Security.

      I have no problem with "add on" private accounts - even tax credits to low income people to contribute to "add on" private accounts. But anything that even smells like a "carve out" private account --- take me off your friggin e-mail list.


STEM CELL RESEARCH and SOCIAL SECURITY - my trump card litmus test issues.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:31 PM
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10. We already HAD a deal on SS. Bush is breaking it. nt
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:33 PM
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11. Welcome
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 01:33 PM by burythehatchet
I've been haranguing about this turd since he handed Florida over in 2000. He was in the veep slot solely to pick up Florida. You remember very well don't you how he organized those great rally's and fought so hard? :eyes:

That plus his Likud first, last , and always policies are revolting. What the fuck is up with Connecticut?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:47 PM
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20. Same fools live there as in California, one concludes
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:34 PM
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12. Dems are talking about a primary challenger...
see the end of my post on this.

I suggest we all mention the possibility of a primary challenger to our good friend Joementum.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:36 PM
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14. Hey hey, ho ho, Holy Joe has got to go!
Come on, join me!
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:36 PM
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15. There is a cadaver shortage at med schools go for it Joe!
He is more than halfway there anyway.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:39 PM
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18. Yup. Way past time. nt
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:42 PM
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19. Oh, but he's a "good democrat"
</sarcasm>
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:48 PM
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21. Bush must be a really good kisser.
SOMETHING made Leiberman go weak in the knees.
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x_y_no Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:49 PM
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23. once upon a time ...
There was a time, some few years ago, when I kind of liked Lieberman. But he's just getting more and more pathetic as time goes by.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:51 PM
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24. Leiberman has got to go. Yes. But
there is absolutely no evidence that he is caving on Social Security. Is it true? Do you trust the word of "a senior Bush advisor"?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:52 PM
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25. Josh Marshall
Read the link. Lieberman is hedging.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:10 PM
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28. Josh Marshall quoted John Harwood who quoted a 'senior Bush advisor'
Yeah, read the link.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:17 PM
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30. Talk to Lieberman's staffers. He's dancing.
I've talked to several of them. They won't give a straight answer on this issue. The only plausible reason is that Joe is considering a "compromise" either with Bush (unlikely) or with Lindsey Graham (likely). Which is why I'm going to enjoy funding St. Joe's primary challenger.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:24 PM
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33. I applaud any effort to oust Lieberman.
However, the absence of evidence is not evidence.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:16 PM
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34. Fuck That, Let The Scumbag Get On Record Saying He's NOT Caving Then
Call it pre-emption then. Hold his feet to the fire.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:19 PM
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36. Yeah, let's nt
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:00 PM
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27. www.senatorphaseout.com is coming!
Who is senator phaseout?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:13 PM
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29. My email to Lieberman
To the Honorable Senator Joseph Lieberman,

It has come to the attention of many internet activists that you plan to sell out the Democratic Party on Social Security and side with the Bush Administration to dismantle this vital program. Because of this, I am personally serving you notice that an effort to field a primary candidate against you is currently gaining steam on the Internet Blogs.

Should you proceed on your current course, please note that this will be a rallying cry to raise funds to insure you are defeated in your 2006 primary.

Sincerely,
Walter E. Starr
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:18 PM
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31. Do we have any Connecticut DUers that will step to the plate and challenge
Lieberman in the primaries when he runs for reelection?

Is there anyone downrange?
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:20 PM
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32. Letter sent
Ready and willing to donate to get rid of him.
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RonMrG Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:19 PM
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35. He was Al Gore's choice for VP for God's sake
Why can't you cut him some slack. By all rights, he should be the VP of the USA. Yes, he sometimes goes against the party's mainstream, just like McCain does with the GOP at times, but the people of Connecticut like him and he will remain their Senator for as long as he wishes to stay. I have a lot of respect for Sen. Lieberman and one of my friends is in the Einstein program out of his office.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:21 PM
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38. Poor judgement on Gore's part.
It probably cost him the election.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:23 PM
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39. Even then, I can recall him coming on the TV....
to explain why we should count all the military votes, whether or not they were "legal" - with post dates obviously after the election that should not have been counted - but Holy Joe agreed with the Repubs on that issue. I will never forget that.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:30 PM
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41. Why in the hell does he DESERVE slack???
He endorsed a person for AG who had shown nothing but complete disregard for US law, and had endorsed torture.

He stood up and chastized the other members of his own party who dared to question Condi Rice's fitness for Sec of State, based on her outright lying to help launch the Iraq war.

He helped pimp a war of choice that has now resulted in close to 1500 dead US service members, countless thousands of Iraqis killed, and thousands more on each side maimed and wounded.

Now, he's dancing around the issue of whether or not to maintain one of the most successful government programs in history, because it would mean actually fucking standing up to Republicans instead of playing nicey-nice.

Given all of the above, and this is just a cursory list, can you please tell me why in the fuck we should give him some slack? What in the hell has he done to DESERVE it??? :grr:
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:34 PM
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42. Welcome to DU, RonMrG...
Get ready for the shit-rain, bubba.
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RonMrG Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:37 PM
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44. LOL...Next time I will definitely bring my raincoat.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:36 PM
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43. NO BREAK FOR DINOS WHERE SS IS CONCERNED!
ANY Democrat who breaks ranks on Social Security is no longer a Democrat and MUST BE TARGETED FOR ELIMINATION IN THE PRIMARY PROCESS!!!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:20 PM
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37. All he needs is a primary opponent....
There won't be enough Repubs to save him.
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