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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:22 PM
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Bush's dangerous illusions....
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 09:24 PM by kentuck
He is showing the symptoms of megalomania. He wants to replace Reagan as the number-one "conservative" leader of his Party. After all, Reagan is dead. Why not George, the living?

Rational people are shocked by his words and actions. He is irrational and unpredictable. Just as when he threatens Iran. He thinks this is supposed to make them act like the Iraqis. They will kick out all their religious leaders and replace them with democratically-minded leaders that are friendly to Israel and the United States. It's a nice illusion. And maybe someday it will happen?

But George doesn't have the patience to wait until "someday". Just as when he attempted to lecture Putin about "democracy" and a "free press" in Russia. No doubt, Russia is still trying to adjust to their new "democracy" and Putin may not be the one to lead them.

However, speeches and words that throw fuel on the fire and divide the factions in those nations even further than they are now, is not necessarily beneficial. We do not know that a friendly "democratic" government will replace the present ones in Iran or Russia or any other place that Bush imagines....because he "believes" it...so it must be true??

In truth, his words and actions create a much more unstable world. We will be cleaning up dead bodies years from now because of George W Bush. And many of those may be America. There is something to be said for stability, even if it is sometimes not the governments we desire. But George is not happy with the status quo. As with all megalomaniacs, they have bigger ideas. And they are usually very dangerous.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:33 PM
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1. I have always believed that Dubya was jealous of Reagan. n/t
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:44 PM
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2. I'm no Reagan fan
and I had to put up with him as a governor and president, but at least
he was a real man with some ethics (some), and he was actually a cowboy
who wasn't afraid of horses!

Not to mention, he was a Hellova better public speaker than *! He also
was smart enough to bolster SS, not try to dismantle it.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:49 PM
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4. Reagan was more articulate and rational than Bush.
Even when he was in the early stages of Alzheimer's at end of his second term.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:06 PM
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6. Bonzo is more articulate and rational. n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:53 PM
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15. Now that's pretty sad
Heh heh.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:45 PM
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3. On the mark, my friend. On the damn mark.
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 09:46 PM by DemoTex
Your comments remind me of what Sidney Blumenthal had to say about the Bu$h Yurp-peon fiasco:

President Bush has reached a dead end in his foreign policy, but he has failed to recognize his quandary. His belief that the polite reception he received in Europe is a vindication of his previous adventures is a vestige of fantasy. (more…)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1424849,...

Kentuck said, "We will be cleaning up dead bodies years from now because of George W Bush."

DemoTex sez: Like in Fallujah, there will be too many bodies. Dogs will feast. We will have long lost count. And I think the Bu$h Wars will be the smaller part of it. Inadequate health care and man-made environmental disasters will push the body count way, way up. Bu$h Wars will rage, too, and they will be bloody. At some point, left unbridled, Bu$h will reach out to that ineluctable weapon at his finger-tips, the nuke. Unless we and the world stop him we are flash-burnt toast.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:54 PM
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5. And when he pushes the button.....
People will flatten their palms on their cheeks with mouths agape, "O My God!" We never thought he would do that! Oh, fucking really?
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:18 PM
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9. There will be the beta-minus moronic rooters. They will chant ...
USA! USA! USA!


The most hated man on earth as of 2/25/05.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:39 PM
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12. What a hateful looking man
His soul must be black as coal...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:56 PM
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16. Just look at his eyes
They tell all. The eyes are the window to the soul.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 12:02 AM
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19. I see an injured, enraged
and crazed soul in those eyes.

God help us.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:49 PM
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14. That is THE worst picture of him that I've seen...
Do you know what the occasion was?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:10 PM
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7. I agree, Kentuck.
I just got done reading some European online papers, where the opinion was, "Europe doesn't take any crap off of Bush". And, "We don't need, the US, but the need us".

Re: "democracy", whenever I read Bush spouting off again about his "democracy", I just take out the word, and replace it with "Imperial vassal state". It works every time.

Bush: "We're trying to make Iraq democratic. = We're trying to make Iraq an Imperial vassal state.



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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:57 PM
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17. Didn't they try this
already with Saddam? :shrug:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:12 PM
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8. Bush is the prissy, patrician, naive that neocons wanted in 1965 to gain
power and rule through. Unfortunately ... he is being puppeteered by Rove. After 30 years of that I am sure there is nothing left inside the man.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:28 PM
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10. I agree, but who do you think pulls Roves strings?
My vote is Poppy Bush.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:43 PM
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13. Rove is his own sociopath. He does it to fill that endless hole inside
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 11:53 PM by applegrove
him that needs self-esteem (one of the problems with not having any emotion is that you do not have self-esteem). So the hunt is on every day of that man's life to fill the hole, ergo grandiose plans where there is always an audience who is amazed at his powress (his latest plans are for a 20 year Republican reign). He sees nothing when he looks into a mirror because there is nothing there - so Rove is dependant on seeing himself reflected in the eyes and reactions of others to 'exist'. A whole pile of Iraqis are a good audience. So obviously is the Bush clan. Creating hate in American between previously separated groups works too. Frightening & 'destroying Democrats is fun". Though when he says "Democratic Party is destroyed" he really means that "the old Republican Party is destroyed. He did it. But everything has to be "reframed" into Karl Rove doing amazing feats and enemies beeing destroyed. It is in fact the people closest to him who are the ones dying (and he has to keep hiding that fact with one scapegoat after another). For sure the soul of the Liberal has not been destroyed. But there are some freepers out there who went from adults to adolescents and now hurt others for sport: and call themselves christians.

Pappy never knew what hit him. Pappy fired Rove for dirty tricks in the 1998 election. Pappy is not sleepy quietly these days. Not a retirement I would dream of - your son to be the puppet of the man who was hired to follow your alcoholic son around and clean up the vomit now has an office next door to the oval office and was likely the only one consulted when Bush Jr. made the final decision to go to war. I would guess that pappy is not sleeping well at all.

It seems that Rove holds meeting with corporate heads & likely has a fun time handing out favours to the people who will make him rich and powerful when this WH thing is over. Those corporations will get fat on handouts and not on being good at what they do. Encouraged in the culture of coertion - they will be the first corporations hit by the human backlash (who would you mussle first). Corporations could have quietly slipped into the emerging economies but by conspicuously following their baser needs they will be shut out of the bigger nations and/or be hog-tied by humans.

So like Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot & others, the world will be exploding around him (and as hard as he tried to make it about others it will be the closest to him who suffer the most) but Karl Rove will have the self-esteem he needs. He is just a more sophisticated version of the other sociopaths. He has a title 'political operative' so funny games are fine. And he uses propaganda to start the wars he needs and propaganda to finish them when they fail. And there will not be death camps. Just a huge generation of adolescents in the elites and adolescents in the freepers - who think they got something out of the deal, but actually - they were just invoked to keep Karl company in his inability to be fully adult & fully human.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 12:16 AM
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20. Interesting perspective.
Rove is real piece of twisted crap. Junior has some health (mental) issue.

What is your take on Poppy offering Junior a seat on the Carlyle group? Junior seemed genuinely surprised when he found out.

Remember Poppy has been getting Junior out of scrapes for years. Texas ANG, bad deals, mismanagement, criminal behavior (possibly related to cults). Also Poppy seems to have some really nasty assets at his disposal result of many years in the intelligence community. I would not want to be on the receiving end of Poppy's wrath.

The entire bunch sounds to me like a Greek Tragedy.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 01:07 AM
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21. When was this? Was it in the early 1990s?
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 02:28 PM
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22. Yes that is the one I am referring to.
I have seen reference on the Internet. I heard about it years ago before he was Governor of Texas, (before I had Internet). My understanding this is common knowledge among some Texans.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:59 PM
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18. Of course
Not to think of him wouldn't be right. He's involved in EVERYTHING.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:36 PM
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11. I believe that Shrub has virtually destroyed the Republican Party!
These madmen have hijacked the party by replacing the standard repub platform with their own demented BS!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:02 PM
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24. Yes and like the good sociopaths they are they insist it is the Democrats
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 05:03 PM by applegrove
they destroyed. The longer they can hide their "darkness" from their own supporters to better. I do not think the old gop will survive. I really do not. And of course I don not think the monsters will last. So a third Republican Party will have to be built. One devoted to not being control by elites. But then I am a total optimist and think the best of humanity.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:28 PM
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23. The most dangerous illusion being that he IS the President
Bush is the :) Happy Face on the NeoCon cabal that hijcked this nation.

Isn't it sad that (as other folks here pointed out ) Bush is so pathetic, he makes Raygun look good? He tries to deliver that patented Reagan gimmick: the "Well"-here-I-go-again-grinning-and-raising-my-eyebrow-and-everybody laughs"-- he uses it after pronouncing a big word and stopping cuz he thinks he made his point.

And performed this way in front of scores of European dignitaries and press?! READING his way across the Continent!!!!!!! And he thinks he did good cuz the handlers give him his treats. A poor trained seal.

Even in his handpicked WH press room corps, you see journalists looking like they are watching a train wreck, in disbelief that this buffoon thinks he is convincing them of anything. Maybe Gannon was there, not to lob softballs (unfortunate term) but to LEND CREDIBILITY to the clueless Emperor.

Bush is not evil. He is scared shitless. Who wouldn't be? They've got him out on a limb, so doped up and wired for sound that he has aged 20 years in the last 5.

Anyone see the film Letterman ran last year of Bush on camera waiting to go "on"? Video rolling and Bush is looking here, there, everywhere, blinking, vague, lights on and nobody home. TRULY scary. He acted like a frightened animal in a cage, not a human being with a thought in his head.

I'm a bit late to this thread, but it is an important one. If we all know how bogus this president is and how dangerous his cabal are, and the rest of the world knows it, why are we allowing our government to be hijacked and our future(s) to bankrupted?

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