Funny thing about SS "reform"

[SHRED]

In the Repug rush to cater to the youth vote and get their Wall Street buddies richer, via SS "deform", they forgot one thing..It's older people who vote!

ROTFLMFAO!!

Going against the AARP is idiotic at best. Us Dems need to swoop in and back the AARP hard against the Pug onslaught.

Oh this is good...real good.

:party:

[berniew1]

1. Bush BS is not about saving social security- doesn't deal with real issue

The only problem with SS is that BushII, BushI, and Reagan have robbed trillions of dollars out of the SSTF to pay for increased military spending while also giving huge tax breaks to their rich friends and contributors. This year Bush has stolen $250 billion out of the TF to fund his wars and his big tax cuts, that he wasn't willing to pay for through taxes. Similar for previous years and same during Reagan and Bush years. And additionally they have created huge "off books debt" such as the Savings & Loan bailout, Fanny Mae, and other GSEs to cook the books and not show the huge debt as part of the national debt.
The money stolen from the SSTF by these 3 that Bush clearly has no intention to pay back through taxes is the only problem with SS currently, and that should be the focus of attention. What to do with the trillions that have been transferred out of the SSTF to rich people in return for their support of the Repub administrations. These funds came out of the contributions of myself and my generation. Now these recent radical and unethical Repub presidents have stolen the money from it and created a huge problem that we must face. Do we pay back all of the huge amounts that were transferred to their friends or reduce our generations SS benefits. And if the answer is pay them back(as was the original intention of the program and past administrations before Reagan), who pays? Those who the funds were transferred to, or the poor and middle class tax payers.
The periods under Reagan and the Bushes have been the periods of the largest transfer of wealth from poor and middle class to the rich in the U.S. and the greatest difference in wealth between rich and poor in the U.S. in history. We are approaching a distribution very similar to banana republics.
So why doesn't the public understand this and wise up? We can't afford to go on in this direction much further.

[berniew1]

2. Social Security isn't the real economic crisis we face- its national debt

Under Bush the national debt has ballooned to about $7.5 trillion already which amounts to about $30,000 per person or $120,000 for the average family of 4. And a family's annual interest on the national debt is over $5,000 per year. So Bush has given us all a big mortgage with his borrowing to pay for his wars and big tax breaks to his rich supporters. And given his tax policy, its clear that the poor and middle class and your kids are the ones expected to pay off this huge debt.
Additionally we this year had the biggest trade deficit in history, over $600 billion. About half of this is for energy/fuel imports.
The huge debt and trade deficits are causing a devaluing of the dollar and making us all collectively poorer each year. And the Bush policies are accelerating these trends. We are running out of oil and natural gas(and the cleaner types of coal) in the U.S. and the huge energy use of the world's biggest and most inefficient energy user country have already become huge problems that aren't being addressed.
This in addition to the fact that the ever increasing use of fossil fuels is leading to an environmental crisis even more serious than the economic problems. Global warming and global mercury pollution
are having huge effects all over the world and will only get much worse. Nothing to avoid major catastrophies now, but we could still reduce the effects significantly. And there are currently
available cost effective measures involving energy efficiency and rational energy policy(see RMI) that could make huge differences in our economic and energy picture.

[scarletlib]

3. so true

I keep wandering how far the repugs and big business are going to let this cabal go in destroying this country. What will happen then? Will people finally wake up and demand justice?


Does big business and the repugs truly do not care about the financial status of this country?

I just don't get it.

They could start fixing this problem today. Just repeal the tax cuts this cabal handed out to all their rich friends.

[Eric J in MN]

4. That's why he's doing it this year instead of in an election year (nt)

nt

[PurityOfEssence]

5. That's why he keeps repeating that it won't affect anyone over 55

His hope is that everyone's as greedy, selfish and shortsighted as he is.

Here's a clue to the destruction of Republicanism: they can't believe that people wouldn't literally kill to feather their nests a bit more. The blind assumption that everyone's megagreedy is a chink in their armor. (Sadly, though, it's not a BIG chink, because with time, people are getting more and more selfish.)

[Skink]

6. Wrong crisis Mr. Bush....

I hate to even use that word but since everything else he touches is in crisis.

[European Socialist]

7. The people who voted for him are insane....

But not insane enough for his SS package.