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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:14 PM
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would you vote for anyone who supports faith based initiatives?
And I don't mean standard lip service faith based initiatives, but ones in the Bush-Ashcroft tradition.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:16 PM
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1. Absolutely not. n/t
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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:16 PM
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2. that depends...
... initiatives to do *what* would be the deciding factor.

Heyo
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:17 PM
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3. the teachings of the masters
of different faiths talk about DOING things and not to advertise their particular religion.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:17 PM
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4. Faith based initiatives are nothing but a ruse
Churchs never had a problem getting government money, if they set up a secular organization and agreed to abide by dicrimination and hiring laws and other government standards.

I would not vote for someone who supports them, unless they were really good on everything else
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:19 PM
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5. no. n/t
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:22 PM
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6. As long as they are financed with faith based dollars and do not have
a government imprimatur and are voluntary. But that's the way it's been before B$$$.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:30 PM
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8. NEVER
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:31 PM
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9. I'll vote for the most progressive
candidate who has a chance of winning.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:32 PM
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10. good answer
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:36 PM
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11. As a strict separationist, it would pain me to do so.
If the most progressive candidate for an office saw nothing wrong with government and churches getting tangled up this way, I would have a real problem with giving them my vote. I might end up voting for the lesser of evils, but that candidate would get an earful from me regarding my disagreement over this position.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 09:08 PM
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12. sure if we START TAXING ALL CHURCHES and make them pay
for cramming their religions down people's throats with tax payer dollars so the priest class does not have to get real jobs.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 09:19 PM
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13. No. ...........n/t
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:11 PM
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14. Absolutely not. And that Includes Hillary Clinton.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:19 PM
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15. No way.....
.... Jose.

Churches get enough government special treatment.

And you can BET that any services provided via "faith-based" initiatives are going to have god strings attached.

I'm not paying my tax dollars to support anyone's religion. Let them pass the plate.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:09 AM
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16. These assholes run around as efficiency experts and then they
want to fund faith based initiatives? Well we do that in Canada - but you have to prove your worth and keep the stats of what you accomplish. You do not get money unless you are actually providing a service. Then you have the same rights as any other group. But you have to accomplish something. You cannot just get more members for your church. You have to deliver.

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