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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 05:50 PM Original message |
I Will Not Vote for A Candidate Who Voted for War in Iraq & Patriot Act |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Bravo |
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cthrumatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
85. that's accountability.....nice thread...I agree |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. Gonzalez: Let's be brave |
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eileen from OH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm a Dean supporter but I will vote for the Dem nominee |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. are we so conditioned to loyalty oaths around here |
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eileen from OH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. I believe my point was in response |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. Remember the Gennifer Flowers Scandal? |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. I hope you'll be proud of yourselves for sitting out the big fight. |
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Printer70 (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Got Principle? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Luckily we have Wes Clark to fall back on |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. I worry about having to fall back on him |
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Indiana Democrat (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. Who do you think can win? |
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Loren645 (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-04 02:03 AM Response to Reply #16 |
92. No *bones* about it. You're right about Kerry. |
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polpilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. If Dean's not the nominee then there's no 'big fight' just more of the |
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drfemoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-04 12:51 PM Response to Reply #54 |
97. Ugh |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. Touche! That's a great |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
7. You have plenty of third party alternatives... |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. ah, we're back to this. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Yes we are and it really isn't that difficult |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. if it's simple, then answer my question |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Your question is irrelevant to what the poster stated... |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 07:49 AM Response to Reply #32 |
58. wrong and no need to run from my question |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Right! And I'm addressing the theme of the thread |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Your not answering speaks louder than an answer. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. It certainly does |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. "leading questions" - yep, that nails it... |
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Printer70 (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. I agree- neither will I vote for a militarist/corporatist |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. its no big deal if you do |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. I disagree with you but I wont force you to vote for the nom |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
13. Not that it will matter, but |
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lastknowngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
14. I understand but don't let your principles |
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Exgeneral (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
15. Those that think Howard Dean is out of this |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I havent declared Dean |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Its not over for Dean at all. |
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Ficus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
68. Dean put TONS of money in IA |
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cthrumatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
87. it's all media "hits" now....who can take it...sad state |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. I can respect a principled stand |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
101. that may well be true, but as the "party realist" oracles may well relate, |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
20. Great post David |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
21. I'll forgive Edwards, but not Kerry |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. Why Edwards, but not Kerry? |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Because he's number one |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Edwards isn't number one in the polls |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-04 02:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
94. Edwards and Kerry are both fine dems WCTV |
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Ficus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
70. your sig line says it all |
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bbmykel (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
22. While I empathize with where you are coming from.... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Who says he is in an emotional state? |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
25. Thanks David. Im certainly looking very seriously at this option. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
29. I will in a New York minute. Whats my other choices. Bush or Jello? n/t |
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KFC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
31. Why should I care? |
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HalfManHalfBiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Exactly |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
33. stick to your guns...this is still a Democracy(nt) |
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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
34. For those who will not vote Dem if... |
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Indiana_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
35. Beautifully said. |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
36. I'm trying to get past this myself |
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Indiana Democrat (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. Would someone please prove the following claim to me... |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. I can't prove it |
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Terwilliger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Several things |
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Indiana Democrat (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. NONE of that is "Proof". |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
79. Paul Wellstone voted for the Patriot Act |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 08:05 AM Response to Reply #37 |
59. You may never get proof. |
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freetempe (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
91. How can you prove something... |
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Township75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
41. Usually no one reads the posts at the bottom of a long thread... |
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Terwilliger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. your 3rd-party argument |
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Township75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 07:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Here is what I wrote.. |
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Terwilliger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
47. You're a Republican |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
48. This is vital fight for the Democratic Party. |
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ACPS65 (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
51. How's the view from your moral highground, Dave? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Probably better than the view of Bush's ass so close to one's lips |
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NavajoRug (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
53. I don't necessarily agree with you, but your post illustrates . . . |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
55. But you WOULD vote for someone who supported Biden-Lugar use of force |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
73. Does the lack of an anwer here surprise you? |
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frank frankly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
56. brother, you are one of the best here |
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freetempe (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-04 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
57. Very articulate |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
60. I hear you. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
61. I'm with you David. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
63. David, you're a treasure! |
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Ficus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
66. ok |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. And like I keep telling them... |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. just don't ask you about it, right? n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. No, just don't ask a diversionary leading irrelevant question... |
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Ficus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. what question |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Thank you. |
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Ficus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 05:14 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. no prob |
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nightperson (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Aside from Mr. Zephyr, more just in general, I say: |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. gotta agree... |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
69. bravo |
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zoeyfong (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
72. You go, Boy! |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
74. Be honest |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. He also said those such as him sat out the 2002 midterms and gave power... |
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Ficus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. yet who will complain the loudest about Bush |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Yep! Those very people who are now threatening to again throw an election |
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bushclipper (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
75. are you telling me that those like you INTENTIONALLY threw the election? |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
86. Congratulations.... |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-23-04 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
90. Vote histories are not the Alpha and Omega of politics. |
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Woodstock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-04 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
93. YEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-04 03:17 AM Response to Original message |
95. I dont care too much about iwr but who is gonna do what and what plan |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-04 03:19 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. If Kerry is elected, Iraq will become a Democratic war |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. excatly my father will be redeployed next year under kerry dean clark or |
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TexasSissy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-04 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
98. Okay. We each have our own decision to make. Democracy in action. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-04 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
100. This is a principled stance |
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