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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:51 PM
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Faux News, Clark lost because he didn't defend SpaceShrub.
I don't like FAUX. They think Clark lost because he didn't defend Chimpy.

What a waste of channel space. Faux SUX
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:53 PM
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1. Faux News is calling Clark a Koolaid sipper....
This is a crazy world...
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:57 PM
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5. I heard that...Mort Kondrake..Kool-Aid Man himself
It was disgusting.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:45 PM
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14. That was the scariest toupee I've ever seen
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 10:46 PM by RatTerrier
Imagine Mort, a 110-year old man trying to look like Dick Clark.

But then again, isn't Dick Clark approaching 110 himself?
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:52 PM
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21. Yeah, that Koolaid stuff is so original and hip.
Gotta admire that Mort Kondracke. What a trendy and humorous intellect.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:53 PM
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2. Bush needs to defend his own record
why the hell should Clark reduce himself to doing it?
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:54 PM
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3. Exactly and you see the reasons now Clark avoided the other
FOX sponsered debate....
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:54 PM
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4. That pretty much seals it up for me
If he pissed them off that much he must have won. :bounce:
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:58 PM
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6. Kondrake is a total Republican.
When you don't show up for duty for over year, that is desertion my friend.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:03 PM
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7. Look, Clark Took 5 Bullets Tonight
I am repeating this because I feel sort of numb about the whole thing.

Clark took that crap he knew was coming... and he did it for US.

I am going to have a hard time not getting provoked next time someone on this forum starts disrespecting Wes.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:48 PM
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15. I'm right behind you. n/t as you said it all.
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Pax Argent Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:54 PM
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22. All of them deserve medals for putting up with this s$%t!!
All of them have been insulted, slighted, misrepresented, misquoted, and generally disrespected in a hundred different ways. The media enjoys its little game as king-maker, and it has been showing. If it were me I would have punched somebody out a long time ago.

While I don't agree with all of them, and they all have their faults, I feel that all of them honestly want to make life better for all of us and for our nation. We're lucky that we have folks this brave, forthright, intelligent and qualified to make this attempt against the walls of Bush's fortress of money and corporate power.

All of them deserve a great deal of respect and gratitude and I wish them all well.

P.S. For the record, Wes did great. F@#k the Faux toads.

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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:04 PM
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8. I liked Clark's reply.
Just as I liked Dean's reply a ways back about 911 and Bush prior knowledge. I thought Clark answered the question perfectly. I thought Clark was a bit stymied by the question about his Republican past, but not the Moore question. Leave it to Fox to spin that.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:06 PM
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9. I'm so happy I have Faux News programed off of my TV.
Like Clark should defend Bush's military record. Give me a fucking break. :grr: If Bush is so damn proud of it, why doesn't he talk about it or release his records, you brownshirt fucks at Fox! :grr: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :grr:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:08 PM
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10. He handled it diplomatically. They were gunning for him.
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poopyjr Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:09 PM
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11. Kondrake isn't even subtle about it.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:14 PM
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12. Yeah, if he'd been in a Republican debate.....
But I don't think a lo of Democrats are going to be upset with the General over his remarks.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:43 PM
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13. Those chickenhawks just don't feel draftdodgers are respectable enough!
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 10:44 PM by flaminbats
:hippie: I listen for your footsteps coming up the drive
Listen for your footsteps but they don't arrive
Waiting for your knock dear on my old front door
I don't hear it - does it mean you don't love me any more

I hear the clock a'ticking on the mantel shelf
See the hands a'moving but I'm by myself
I wonder where you are tonight and why I'm by myself
I don't see you - does it mean you don't love me any more

Don't pass me by don't make me cry don't make me blue
Cause you know darling I love only you
You'll never know it hurt me so how I hate to see you go
Don't pass me by, don't make me cry

I'm sorry that I doubted you I was so unfair
You were in a car crash and you lost your hair
You said that you would be late about an hour or two
I said that's alright I'm waiting here just waiting to hear from you

Don't pass me by don't make me cry don't make me blue
Cause you know darling I love only you
You'll never know it hurt me so how I hate to see you go
Don't pass me by, don't make me cry

<One, two, three, four, five, six, seven...>

Don't pass me by don't make me cry don't make me blue
Cause you know darling I love only you
You'll never know it hurt me so how I hate to see you go
Don't pass me by, don't make me cry
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:54 PM
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16. Colmes" Clark should of said Bush was not a deserter" WTF!?! HE IS!
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 10:56 PM by TheDonkey
Faux is beyond awful.

Makes CNN look like sane with that type of shit. Ugh i feel sick.
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Pax Argent Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:37 PM
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17. The problem is dogmatic belief in the "rightness" of the right
I've been talking at length with a very reasonable (relative) right winger in my office, and I've come to understand that right wingers will just attack anything that violates their canon of belief, regardless of evidence or logical argument to the contrary. I believe this trait holds true in the majority of right wingers.

For instance, Dean was castigated by the right for merely stating that a theory existed that Bush knew that something was happening in early September 2001. There's several pieces of evidence to indicate that this might be the case, and no evidence to support the contrary, but the right doesn't want to live in a world where the president might be guilty of this level of incompetence, so you get a violent negative reaction. The more evidence there is, the more hostile it gets.

Moore made his statement on Bush's possible AWOL/desertion. Four years later it still hasn't been resolved and the evidence points towards something being wrong. In the world of the right, their man would never be AWOL, so anyone who would suggest otherwise is a "Kool-Aid Sipper". Its not the evidence or logic that is faulty, it is the right's inability to see beyond their dogmatic projections on the subject at hand.

You can see the problem inherent in the Iraq debacle.

I've seen this reaction pattern from several otherwise very intelligent and sensible people.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:42 PM
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18. he was given a pitch down the middle and fouled it off
and fouled it off his foot.

If he believes it, say it, if not, say that too.

If you're afraid of offending the Michael Moore bloc then you have no business standing up there. That was one endorsement he should have declined. There was no possible good that could come of it.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:45 PM
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19. Defending the chimp is the surest way to lose my vote
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 11:46 PM by LuminousX
I know most of those Democratic voters out there are thinking that exact same thing I am.

They put Clark in a tight corner. He punted. It was the correct thing to do. I don't like the guy, but god damn it if I'm going to let Fox News deny me the right to not vote for him. Fox News can shove it up their asses. Clark is one of ours when he is on that stage and I'm not going to let a piss ant talking head play the role of poisoner.
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snyttri Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:48 PM
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20. Some writer should do a story about the smear style of Hume questions.
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