I'd vote for Lieberman....

[TheDonkey]

I was formerly in the ABB & Lieberman crowd but have changed my opinion after this debate.

When Lieberman isn't attacking progressives, liberals, and other canidates he actually can make a good progressive point! I'm shocked and scared L-man was talking like he was a Democrat.

He's still at the bottom of the barrel of picks I'd make for the nomination (and defiently of pres.) but he's not ALL that bad. I'm proud to have him be in the same party as me even though we disagree on many issues. But he still has an incredible amount of more sense than republicons.

[krkaufman]

1. L is detrimental to the larger message

Whatever his other policy positions, Sen. Lieberman's position that the Iraq war and removing Saddam from power were good things are contrary to common sense and woefully premature -- and detrimental to the core message that will help get Bush removed from office.

The Democratic party has already tried the "Bush Lite" approach in 2002, and failed. Lieberman's position undercuts the most damning case against Bush.

Clark's position that the Iraq war was a war of choice, not necessity, a choice made by the Bush Administration long before 9/11, and a choice made contrary to Jan 2001 security briefings underscoring the Al Qaeda terrorist threat, needs to be championed by the Party -- and every other person interested in removing these power mongers from office.

Hopefully, the Democratic electorate will realize that, as Michael Moore said, we've been handed a gift. IMO, we need to get behind Clark; but short of that, the candidates need to coopt this particular message.

Regards,
Karl K.

p.s. On a positive note... at least Zell Miller isn't running.

[mmonk]

2. Lieberman is always called by republicans

to help make their case against the democrats. It's that plain and that simple. To me, he's part of their plan to make the dems seem too liberal, extreme, out of touch, and unAmerican (as they define it). If Lieberman gets the nomination, I'm going to have a hard time because he speaks ill of his party as much as he speaks ill of bush IMO.