Newsday: "Clark searching for answers"

[Hoppin_Mad]

Welcome to 'the club' Clark supporters - we know how it feels.

Clark Searching for Answers

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usclar0124,0,3486331.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines

January 24, 2004

Manchester, N.H. -- As his star has dimmed in New Hampshire this week, presidential candidate Wesley Clark has often appeared to voters as the retired general he is, more used to giving orders than answering hundreds of questions.

In the four days since his Democratic opponents and a horde of journalists converged here following the Iowa caucuses, Clark has routinely had to explain and adjust statements on a host of issues, from labeling Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry a "junior officer" in Vietnam, to an initial endorsement of abortion rights at any time during pregnancy, to his failure to disavow a charge made at one of his rallies by filmmaker Michael Moore, who accused President George W. Bush of being a military deserter.

[Skwmom]

1. Clark has been attacked from day one unlike

Dean who got a free pass for months (as even noted by the ABC Note).

[dsc]

3. what an utter crock

Dean 49% positive coverage, rest of the field 78%. The numbers speak for themselves.

[Hoppin_Mad]

6. Pshaw ! The media were fawning over him before last night -nt-

[KittyWampus]

10. Prove It.

Google Shelton/Clark

They either maligned him or ignored him.

[Brett]

13. LOL

Google Dean/scream.

:eyes:

[Bolo Boffin]

19. Googlefight: Dean/scream v. Clark/Shelton

http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=Dean+scream&q2=Clark+Shelton&B1=Make+a+fight%21&compare=1&langue=us

Winner by a mile: Many more Google references to Clark Shelton.

[newyawker99]

21. Hi Brett!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Hoppin_Mad]

14. Clark's entrance was portrayed as a white knight coming to save Dems

Tom Curry
MSNBC

Sept. 16 - With the cool audacity of a commander who isn’t intimidated by catastrophes that might unfold on the battlefield, retired Gen. Wesley Clark is poised to announce Wednesday that he’ll enter the race for the Democratic nomination. Despite his late leap into a crowded field, Clark should prove a formidable candidate who will have a serious impact on the race, even if he doesn’t win.

-snip-

Clark brings to the race his crisp, no-nonsense television skills honed in many appearances on CNN as a military commentator. His rhetorical style is not trapped in the baroque stylistic excesses of the United States Senate, where several of his competitors hail from.

Although the full range of his military record has not yet been subjected to detailed scrutiny by the national news media, Clark spent his life in a profession that many Americans admire, especially just two years after the United States was attacked.

Any soldier who can rise to become a four-star general has already proven that he’s an adept politician, even if he has never been elected mayor or county supervisor.


-snip-

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3070778/

This is the tone of the vast majority of major media Clark articles until last night - at least the ones I read. I don't read right wing sources, and try not to pay attention to the conspiracy rants.

[Clark4Prez]

2. "I would join any club that would have me as a member"-Marx

Groucho, not Karl.

Thanks for post, its good to feel the "liberal" media's love.

[LiberalBushFan]

4. Someone needs to write to them.

And tell them to fire the writer who doesn't realize that Junior Officer is an official term and wrote a whole article about it.
It'll like criticizing someone for calling Donald Rumsfeld "Secretary of Defense" because it implies he's just a secretary.

[funky_bug]

9. Excellent

I've been struggling for some way to relate that title to those not acquanted with military rank. I was raised an Army brat, so this "supposed" insult went right over my head. I cannot believe they're still harping this point!

[newsguyatl]

5. oddly enough

(and this is really strange for me) i actually feel a little sympathy for wes...


perhaps it's empathy... of knowing how it feels to get attacked relentlessly... unfortunately clark supporters (and this in no way is a threat) it's only going to get worse... you're gonna see how it feels when they go after the man you so dearly look up to and believe in... it's tough, and as much as i don't support clark for president, i don't wish that on him or any of his supporters (even the most vicious ones here)...


hang in there, and enjoy the ride...


on edit: ok, so maybe i don't feel SO bad for the vicious ones :P

[Justice]

12. Thanks, But

Empathy is understanding how when feels even when you haven't had their experience. Sadly being a democrat today means we have all had this experience.

[Namvet04]

7. I predict he will finish behind edwards and we will not here

much of him anymore.

I think it could be really interesting to get it down to Dean, Kerry and Edwards. Debates would be good. These three do not have much baggage to me.

Point out if I am wrong next week. Most of my dem friends just do not get what clarke stands for as it seems to change all the time.

[tishaLA]

8. Thanks for the insightful post

hope to read lots more of them. especially the ruminations on how your "dem friends" feel.

[Namvet04]

15. Thanks - I am glad to see Edwards moving up

I was for Dean but concern he will not be around when it is my states time.

I think it will be good to have debates between Edwards, Dean and Kerry. Good men. Long time dems with not all the baggage of Sharpton and Clarke. If we are trying to win this thing, let us go with the best. I am a vet from nam and there was no greater dangerous position to be in than what Kerry was in. Dean is brings a fresh group of people to the party. Edwards is new and young.

Dean could come back if we get it down to these three.

I am sorry but I can't understand what Clarke stands for.

[tishaLA]

16. First, his name is "Clark," not "Clarke"

He isn't Bib Clarke, the GM of the Philadelphia Flyers. Second, I don't knw what "baggage" you think Clark has, but maybe you could share it with me. Is it his position as Supreme Allied commander of NATO or perhaps the bronze star, silver star, and purple heart he won in Vietnam (I'm sure they award those for avoiding danger, right)? Or perhaps the Medal of Freedom he received from that notorious philaderer, Bill Clinton?

If you don't know what Clark stands for, you can look on his website. It should all be perfectly clear.

[Forkboy]

18. First,his name is "Bob",not "Bib"

Sorry,hockey fan here...couldn't resist :evilgrin:

[tishaLA]

20. Yeah I noticed after the edit time was past

Thanks for making me look like a fucktard though! :evilgrin:

[SimpleMan]

11. If we don't run Clark...

...we lose.

[w13rd0]

17. If we run Clark...

...we lose.

Both statements, being purely speculative and not based on a single WHIT of empirical evidence, are equally "valid" (in the sense that they aren't at all valid).