Clinton: "Bush a genuinely good man"... Lordy, he got a different heart !

[Laura PourMeADrink]

He's on Larry King now.

On edit: Although Larry didn't specify he just asked him about "Bush" -- other watchers say he was probably talking about the father GHB. Which is not as strange, but still strange,IMHO

[bluestateguy]

1. Eh.

He's a former president. Let him look statesmanlike and concilliatory and leave the harsh rhetoric to us.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Point taken...BUT, he doesn't have to go THAT far. How will

we ever convince the population that B** is an evil, warmonger?

[Warpy]

19. He's also a CONSERVATIVE.

Too bad Poppy was so bitter and vengeful and guided the GOP to attack him instead of working with him. Clinton would have given him everything they ever wanted.

Look how fast he gave them NAFTA and GATT.

[GainesT1958]

2. He's been schmoozed too much by Poppy and Bar lately...

Hard to see how ANYONE not of the hard right-wing ilk could think Dub any kind of a "good man"!:eyes:

Stick to Tsunami relief, Bill, and listen a little more to Erskine while you're at it!

B-)

[Windy]

23. Its all for Hillary..... grease the wheels of the right wing

[babylonsister]

3. He was talking about Poppy; their trips to

the tsunami-stricken areas formed a bond. And Sr. is a helluva lot more reasonable than jr.

[whistle]

4. This is William Jefferson Clinton 42nd President of the United

...States of America who just said that on Larry King live? Uhmmm, one or both of the Bush twins are doing him!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. Aha ! Yes, there's something more to this BFEE love fest..I bet

there was a deal to get Hillary in WH

[femme.democratique]

32. Yeah thats it - but I hear Jenna only does cheap Dominican cigars...

Bill. Bill. WHY???? He sold us out. Prick.

[Wilms]

5. Clinton is genuinely a good dog n/t

[htuttle]

7. Yes, I've heard that Lucifer is rather charming in person

[SnoopDog]

8. Thats like saying... "Hitler was a genuinely good man"....

Sorry everybody, I think Mr. Clinton has drank the Kool aid. If I was in a similar position, I just would not say anything. You know the old saying "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all'.

[calico1]

9. He is showing a lot more class than Bush.

I would not want him to be like they are.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. So you think he is genuine ?? He really likes the stupid idiot >>>

You're talking about someone who slept through law school and would wake up and know every answer liking a illiterate degenerate??

[tuvor]

11. Please confirm which bush. n/t

[puddycat]

12. Was he talking about GW or GHW? N/T

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. GWB - aka Chimp

[ElectroPrincess]

16. Yeah, I concur: Both * twins are "doing him" /eom

[Spazito]

18. He was talking about GHW Bush

talking about the work they did together re the Tsunami, said he liked the family, he was very diplomatic but my sense is he likes the dad, not so much the son.

[SteveIrving1]

15. Bush senior and and Clinton..

Are both former presidents so its not much of a surprise that Bill and George sr. are friends. Also noticed how Bill sorta stuttered during the part about the bush family. He tried to Avoid saying Georges Dad is great, but his sons a jackass.

[Bill Wade]

17. Always a lot of love on DU for Clinton.

I can never understand why either.

Of course I didn't pay attention to politics when he was in office, and also my first introduction into his tenure as president was when I read Zinn's take on him in People's History of the U.S...which was pretty harsh towards Clinton, and his administration.

[EVDebs]

20. He's got to say that, or he'll end up like Bill Colby !

[Q]

21. Too many Democrats seem to forget...

...that Bush & his poppy are enemies of the state and the Democratic party. They're both crooks of the highest order and have personally participated in the destruction of the Constitution and the character assassination of many good Democrats.

Clinton isn't doing our party or our country any favors by giving the impression that either one of them are 'good' people.

[KoKo]

22. Is this "subtle speak" for "a good man"...but an idiot when it comes to

running the country? A "good man" who has to live down his "Poppy?" A "good man" who has enough psychological problems he might need at the least "Meds" at the worst to be instituionalized. :shrug:

Oh Mighty Clinton (Big Dog) give me help that such a statement would come from your mouth to defend those who trashed you for EIGHT LONG YEARS and CAUSE US DEMOCRATS TO FALL BECAUSE OF YOUR ALLOWING THIS?

I loved you Bill .....and you keep "doin' me wrong" no matter how much faith I had in you or told my relatives and friends to have in you.

It's almost all gone, Bill. Just please shut up and go work for Tsunami Aid...we don't need more "stuff." :-(

[dennis00]

24. a genuinely good man?

Poppy was director of the CIA AND he was in Dallas doing something or other the day JFK was assassinated.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. wow, never knew that. I think he is as evil as the son, but much

smarter and knows how to get away with it. Who really knows what he was doing with the Saudis on 9-11 either..

[dogindia]

25. i think he has been brain washed

or taken over by some sort of aliens. It just does not compute. But maybe it does. Now he is talking about agreeing with Iraq.

Remember he bombed and starved Iraq.

I am now very very disappointed in Big Dog.

[Writer]

26. I think Clinton is being a very good Hindu

which pretty much follows the same rules of politics. Speak well of your enemies. Create a bounty of good karma for you and yours.

But when in battle, let them have it.

[Generator]

29. When does the battle begin

And will we all have already lost our liberties or be dead before then? Clinton is not awake.

[Writer]

31. This is defeatism.

The battle is going on now... but I suppose we're all supposed to be foul-mouthed bastards. No decorum. No maturity. Just more mudslinging and nastiness.

Reid has a job to do. Listen to him for your political scorepoints, would ya?

[Generator]

37. No this is reality

Bullshit on your post. Especially since "foul-mouthedness" is your big concern. Clinton has DONE SHIT for us in the last four years. In fact HE APPEARS to be a great cheerleader for the other side. I wasn't discussing Reid or anybody else-the thread was about Bill Clinton and his sad and predictible (I guess because all politics is a euphemism for bullshit in the end isn't it-that's why they say "it's all politics") shift all the way to the gray side. Not even dark side-because he keeps his toes on our side. He never could commit. Couldn't protest the war. Couldn't inhale. Couldn't go to battle then either. Sorry but I've fucking had it with dynasties-with Clinton too. He has made himself irrelevant. And has anybody noticed that Larry King and of course, CNN are the prime mouthpieces for our little fascist leaders these days?

Oh and Bush Sr. has not counted the other Bush son out.

[Writer]

38. You have just made my point for me. n/t

[LuPeRcALiO]

48. yep.

sad but true. Clinton is selling us all out for who knows what. Maybe for Hillary. I'd like to think so but I kind of don't.

[xray s]

28. go away bill

you didn't have the guts to prosecute the Bush Crime Family when you were in office either....just what is it with the Bush's and Bill Clinton?

:puke:

[dogindia]

30. His face looks kind of skrewy. A kind of twisted

ness that I have never seen before.

[dogindia]

33. Now he is saying how smart Rove is

Not any admit to vote fraud.

What is wrong? He sat in the WH for 8 years.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. It's called -- He has an ulterior motive. We just don't know what

the ulterior motive is. But my guess is that it is not some altruistic mission of restoring power to the people.

[dogindia]

35. gosh I sure as heck hope so.

Please Bill.

[Geek_Girl]

40. As much as I Loathe Clinton's pandering

I do think his heart is in the right place. For Him the Ends does justify the means.

[undeterred]

53. He wants to be Secretary General of the UN so its good for him

to be as conciliatory as possible with everyone. He's campaigning.
Bill Clinton is no fool.

[Sperk]

36. Dear Pres. Clinton, Good men DO NOT STEAL ELECTIONS!

Jesus H. Christ...I am so sick of this....GWB stole TWO elections, DELIBERATELY lied us into a war, steals from the poor to give to the rich, poisons the environment, condones torture, takes our civil liberties, lied about 9/11 (was in on it), sent NYers into poison air (ground zero), nominated total nut jobs into our courts and did I mention he LIES, LIES, LIES and LIES?!?!?!

A smarmy, egotistical, diabolical, stupid little lying twit does not a good man make.
:mad:

[Geek_Girl]

39. Clinton Always the Politician

He's guided by his political instincts and he wants something from this administration maybe Secretary-General of the United Nations or maybe he's trying to help out Hillary for her '08 run.

But I don't believe that he really thinks Bush is a genuinely good man Poppy or Jr.

[Generator]

41. Really? You think he really believes and knows the Bush's true evil?

I think people tell themselves all kinds of lies they have to believe to be able to sleep at night. I know I don't sleep too well thinking my government allowed 9/11 to happen for ideology and profit. Not believing that would be so much easier. People lie to themselves just to live. I would hope his investment in the Bush clan-if he's so smart and a Hindu "warrior" as some say-would be to really see their true evil. But where Bill Clinton has put his energy in these last years has not been where it as done this country a shred of good. I haven't seen one thing he has done. Not one in our time OF MOST NEED.(and it hurts like hell) Show me something good he has done for America to fight the Bush cabal since he was selected. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. I don't think he believes they are the evil we do-or he simply could not spend the time and energy with them and defending them that he does.


And his wife doesn't have a snowballs chance either. But whatever..it's important to lie to yourself..it makes life easier.

[Geek_Girl]

45. If the Government allowed or made 9/11 happen

Then Clinton Knows about it along with many democrats currently in power including John Kerry, who we all voted for.

But we do not have all the facts and circumstances that keep our leaders from coming out publicly. So they're doing what they think they can, with skills and resources they got. Right or wrong Clinton I believe wants to take over the UN because he thinks he could create global stability throughout the world so something like 9/11 never happens again.

His dream I believe has always been for world peace.

That's my opinion. I don't like the pandering BS games he plays with wacko Conservatives, but he always seems to come out ahead in the end.

[Gyre]

42. Clinton is a greaseball.

Likeable in a way, but he's oily. It's why he had zero coattails for Gore to ride after two terms. Not my idea of an "elder statesman" at all.

Gyre

[DURHAM D]

43. Oh please, Gore (incorrectly) ran away from those two terms.

Gore has zero political sense.

[CAG]

44. Clinton bashing is always so productive (sarcasm)

Bill Clinton has helped a hell of a lot of people in this world, a hell of a lot more than anyone of us could ever imagine. I get the impression some on DU will ONLY be happy once we have Dennis Kucinich as President. Well, I've got news for you; Dream On!!!!
Those that continuously bash Clinton for not taking up the liberal banner 24/7 need to step back and realize for a minute that we should be thankful that we didn't have Bush Sr from 88-96, followed by Bush Jr.
I am extremely grateful and take my hat off to any democrat who can beat a republican, especially for President. Keep in mind that the repubs have ingrained advantages in EVERY election; they have more money raised (corporate interests and lobby groups), they can tell the electorate everything they want to hear (tax cuts for everyone, while we'll still take care of all of your entitlements, rail against big govt bureacrats, wrap themselves in the flag, and of course call democrats baby killers and gays), and NOW they even have the computers rigged.

[Gloria]

46. From today's WaPo....."veiled criticism of Bush is unmistakable"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/31/AR2005053101825_2.html

Bill Clinton Takes Spot On Global Stage
By John F. Harris
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 1, 2005; Page A01


SNIP

Beneath the surface, there is a deep vein of politics in Clinton's international activities as ex-president. While he has mostly supported Bush on the Iraq war -- and says that all Democrats should be supporting full victory even if they first opposed the war -- almost every speech he has given in recent months has contained the same refrain, delivered in nearly identical language.

"We can't relate to the rest of the world only through a negative prism, and only through telling them to do things," he told the Chamber of Commerce in Lancaster, Pa. "Why? Because if you live in a world where you can't kill, jail or occupy all your enemies, security will never be enough. You've got to make a world where you've got more friends and fewer enemies, where you make partners."

The veiled criticism of Bush is unmistakable. Clinton, associates say, thinks Bush has weakened U.S. standing in the world by being too dismissive of allies and projecting an image of American arrogance abroad. Bush says he welcomes allies but will not let dissenters abroad stop him from doing what he thinks is necessary to protect security.

For all the new rapport in the Bush-Clinton relationship -- Bush throwing regular rhetorical bouquets to his predecessor and assigning him to visit tsunami-stricken areas -- the two presidents represent twin poles in a pointed ideological debate. Since Sept. 11, 2001, has been at the center of national politics, this argument about the relative balance of force vs. persuasion in U.S. foreign policy has been at the middle of domestic politics.

MORE

[Catherine Vincent]

47. President Clinton only wants to be at peace with his enemies.

He's forgiven all what happened in the past between himself and the Bushies. He's got higher priorities now, his health for one.

[KakistocracyHater]

49. It's maddening to watch

Clinton because I'm not certain where the guy actually stands. & reading through all the observations & arguments that seems to sum it up for a lot of people. I hope he's for democracy & yet...what has he done for the usa lately? & what could he do? What coded "dredd scott" words could he say to us? hehe

[tmorelli415]

50. What did you expect him to say? George is an a**hole pig f*cker?

That would be closer to the truth but not really very becoming when it comes out of the mouth of a former president on natoinal television. Besides, you can be a 'nice fellow' and also be an a**hole pig f*cker - I don' think they're mutally exclusive.

[Disturbed]

51. Bill and George 1 are...

both Repub Lites, so of course they get along well.

[Enraged_Ape]

52. The Dark Side has powers that many would consider to be...

...unnatural.

[magnolia]

54. In defense of Clinton...

If you really pay attention to W when he is talking, I think you will see that he is not evil...he is just plain stupid. He is told what to say, he says it and believes it. In "Bush on the Couch" it says that he is not capable of thinking under stress. Hence the blank look on his face when he heard about the 9/11 attack. You are giving him way too much credit if you think he is planning and coming up with these grand schemes. He is a pawn...a puppet. It doesn't mean that he shouldn't be prosecuted for his crimes...he's still responsible. But he is more pathetic, than evil, more to be pitied than hated.

Clinton is very intelligent and I'm sure he knows a lot more about what is going on than we do. Maybe the whole Bush family is a front...and he knows it.

I do believe that Clinton is a very good man who really cares about people and this country...so I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt.