NEWS FLASH! Hillary Clinton to be President

[mr715]

I am looking in my crystal ball. Everyone here is complaining about the press Hillary is getting, since shes the frontrunner. This early. But the frontrunner nonetheless!

Reminds me of the visceral loathing all you people had for Kerry when he was the frontrunner. Hmmm...

And the reason why the news is on a 24 hour Hillary loop is simple. Its the same reason they did it in 2000 when she won the seat in the Senate. The media loves Hillary because shes contraversial. Dont remember the same talk in 2000? She didnt run in 2004!

As for why Hillary is qualified to be President.

a) More experience than John Edwards
b) Healthcare before healthcare was cool. Vision, foresight, intellect. but what the liberals want is what Hillary wants to give ya.
c) She is an incredible debater.
d) She exudes charisma and is a fighter
e) She represents the 3rd largest state

Hillary would take the following states for sure.
California, New York, Massachusets, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont, Delaware, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Hawai'i

The state thats up for grabs and will determine the election is gonna be, as usual, Florida (all the other electoral prizes are partisan).

I suspect that the Clintonian charm, her rapport with minorities, and her incredibly solid support from Jewish and elderly voters will put her over the top.

Yeah its jumping the gun. But I love me the Hillary!

#44 - President Hillary Rodham Clinton
Vice President Mark Warner
Sec. of State Bill Clinton
Sec. of Treasure Paul Krugman
Sec. of Defense Wesley Clark
Attorney General John Edwards
Sec. of the Interior Susan Collins
Sec. of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
Sec. of Commerce Joseph Leiberman
Sec. of Labor Dick Gephardt
Sec. of Housing/Urban Development Carol Mosley-Braun
Sec. of Transportation (No Clue)
Sec. of Energy Al Gore
Sec. of Health and Human Services (No Clue)
Sec. of Education Bob Graham
Sec. of Veteran Affairs Bob Kerrey
Sec. of DOMESTIC Security Max Cleland

[ElectroPrincess]

1. Question: What is the motivation of all these Hillary sycophants?

I've never gone for the *hard sell* and I'm not about to start. :P

[AntiCoup2K4]

20. Most of them are DLC interns

the rest are Freepers. At least one of them (from Freepland) finally wised up and found a username a little less obvious than "HILLARYSUPPORTER", "HILLARY2004", or "HILLARY4PRES".

Difference between the 2 groups is this:

1) Freeps want Hillary as a great way to rally the right wing troops.

2) DLC wants Hillary so they can throw the game again and then claim that Hillary's blatant sellout to the Likud and the corporatists was somehow "too liberal".

[BlueEyedSon]

2. Sorry, more than 50% of the electorate is not ready for a woman POTUS.

Personally, I think we should discourage the current trend toward dynastic presidencies.

OTOH, if the GOP picks Pickles I could get excited about Hill.

[Vinca]

3. Wow - I thought you meant the Dems bought the voting machines.

I'm still wondering how we'll ever win anything again, even with an overwhelming majority.

[Al-CIAda]

4. A woman as president is a recipe for disaster.

The American idiots are not going to do it. Sorry, all this Hillary hype is beginning to make me disgusted. ITS FUCKING 2005. Concentrate on LOSING 2006 first!

He who controls the voting machines and fraud will win then-and again...and we all know who that is.

PS- With all this Hillary propaganda being forced, I suspect there are more than a few posters here who are doing it on orders to push this crap.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

27. Concentrate on LOSING 2006 first!

:rofl:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

5. Hillary has no capacity to win people over.

Everyone already has formed their opinions of Hillary Clinton, and it's not nearly enough to win the Presidency. She would be a recipe for 160 electoral votes, and that might be conservative, given just how much she would stir up the right wing vote.

[Inland]

12. Too broadly stated.

In fact, Hillary has won people over in New York, both during and after the campaign. Of course, that's New York. Whether she can win anyone over in the less blue states is another opinion.

[TheFarseer]

31. Yes, she has no capacity to win swing states

This would be like Dukakis all over again.

[Maddy McCall]

6. Quit buying into and furthering the Right-Wing crap.

Hillary will not be our nominee. Period.

[bowens43]

7. With Hillary as our candidate we would see a repeat

of the Reagan / Carter race. Hillary would do more to motivate conservatives and republicans then any republican can ever do, not to mention that independents and democrats don't care for her either.

I really can't think of a worse choice.

Even if she were to win ,(and she wouldn't) we would still lose. A war mongering , right leaning, centrist who panders to the bible thumpers and anti-choicers.

No thanks.

[sendero]

8. Why would Hillary's failed health care ....

... "solution" be a positive? It was an abysmal failure not only in that it wouldn't work, but it went no where to boot.

In fact, I'd be really interested in hearing about any specific accomplishment that Ms Clinton has achieved. I cannot think of a single one.

[enough already]

10. Her inept health care "solution"

Cost us the House for the past 11 years. Thanks, but no thanks.

[CWebster]

9. Meanwhile hubby chums around with the Bush clan

Just what America needs--"Democrats" aiding abetting and allowing lack of accountability of Neo-Con crimes.

[ecoalex]

11. Clinton is now Carlyle Group

With his new pal, Clinton is off to the Tsunami area for the Carlyle group. The buzzards bush and Clinton were circling soon after the bodies were picked up. $$$$$ beckons.

[forgethell]

13. Hillary will

probably be the Democratic nominee. No question about that. She will be crushed in the general election. IMO. She has too much baggage, and it will all be brought up. Politics of personal destruction works both ways, of course, and Hillary knows how it's played, but there are issues that will be used to destroy her.

Even more important, though, is the fact that she is positioning herself in the center. This will depress the base vote, while not gaining that much from the other side, or even the "center". See "politics of personal destruction", above.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

16. Kinda premature don't you think?

Everybody thought the same about Dean in 2004 until the first numbers started to roll in. "Kerry who?"

[AntiCoup2K4]

21. Big difference.

Dean was a qualified candidate who threatened the system (corporatists/DLC/whoremedia) so the system had to take him down.

Hillary is a willing agent OF the system, but not qualified to be President.

[livinginphotographs]

14. Anybody but Hillary.

Despite my own disagreements with her, can you imagine what this will do the right-wing? If you think the Swift Boat vets were nasty, just try running a Clinton and see what will happen.

I don't understand all this pro-Hillary talk all of a sudden, especially on DU.

[Heewack]

15. I agree.

I see her as the strongest candidate from either side right now and I think all of this early press allowing people to get used to the idea of a woman POTUS who might not otherwise entertain it. I know polls don't mean squat right now, but that USATODAY poll showing 33% of conservatives supporting her blew me away. Even if it is only really 15% that is enough to take the election.

[election_2004]

22. of course 33% of conservatives support her...

because they WANT her to be the Democratic nominee so they can run their candidate against her!

[Roland99]

17. Oh? Really? 89% would disagree.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1820574

[Nederland]

18. Not sure about one point

c) She is an incredible debater.

Really? I've never been impressed with her speaking skills let alone her debating skills. In fact, I can't recall the last time I heard her speak with an opposing voice present at the same time. Mostly I hear her give clever sound bites after the fact--a good skill to have, but not quite the same as off the cuff debating.

Anyone have any video/audio clips that might prove me wrong?

[katty]

19. TheHill/Bill dream: She is Prez-Bill runs the UN

that's their big dream, together again.

[TheFarseer]

32. I don't know why Bill being involved in the UN is so bad.

Are they afraid he won't yell at the other diplomats and throw things? That seems to be what they want. Why is Bill being in the UN so tragic? Do they think he'll sell out our military secrets? He could do that and not be in the UN. It's not so much worse than corporations selling out all our industrial secrets with no one stopping them. I don't see why this is such a big deal to RWers.

[Gyre]

23. You need to get out more often.

Hillary is disliked just about everywhere except in the northeast.

Gyre

[Barad Simith]

24. sorry, it's going to be Conyers/Boxer

:bounce:

[FrenchieCat]

25. Why are some failing to see the real problem with a Hillary run?

To consistently fail to mention that Hillary as a nominee leaves this country with a potential "Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton" 28 year legacy.

That, in itself, will drive many voters to the Republicans or to stay home (unless Jeb is running--Then it becomes Hatfields v. McCoys).

Get a clue! Most Americans pride themselves on having broken away from the monarchy centuries ago. Offering a dynasty by promoting Hillary Clinton will bomb big in Iowa. Take my word for it; this will be emphasized by her opponents (if I have anything to do with it).

[AmericanDream]

26. More experience at what... being married to Bill?

You mentioned that she has more experience than John Edwards... well, if we look at their individual careers... they will both be at the same platform with one Senate term behind them. And, that they both have been part of national campaigns for President. Now, if being the President's wife is now being considered "experience" on Hillary's own resume, then that is just sad.

I'm not going to refute all the other stuff you've mentioned, however, let me just say that our country needs new leadership... the clintons aren't upto that challenge!

[Blue_In_AK]

28. She surely isn't MY choice... n/t

[ChiciB1]

29. Mine EITHER.... And

I will keep this issue on the front burner. No to HILLARY, and I won't have ANY of the so called media telling ME who I WANT TO VOTE FOR!!!

[sellitman]

30. I am Jewish and I wouldn't vote for her.

I think you need to look at her track record better. She is a moderate who leans right. I want Liberal who represents what is the core of the Democratic Party. I like Boxer, Conyers and yes...even Kucinich although he is very pro Arab. These 3 have most of my hot buttons covered. Hillary doesn't. Not by a long stretch.

[MoonRiver]

33. OK, whatever.

:boring: