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NeoGreen Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:59 PM
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Tin Foil Hat? Check!
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 04:01 PM by DemoGreen
Ok. I've been reading about the Downing Street Minutes/Memo with a growing sense of hope. I soooo want this to be the beginning of the end for *, D1ck, Rove and KKKompany.

But I find myself having to ask "Are we being 'Dan Rathered'"?

As we all know in the Dan Rather story where letters that documented *'s "special treatment" by his dad's buddies that were "re-created" (i.e. forged) however, the CONTENT of the documents were never questioned. Even after White House review of the content PRIOR to the airing of the story or after a nice little old lady was interviewed by Mr. Rather on national TV where she said theses are not the letters I typed but they are very similar (in content) to letters I did type.

Rove and KKKompany and MSM jumped full tilt onto the "forgery" issue and left the question of the CONTENT behind in the dust. Of course they never fully explored who might have created the "forgeries" (or maybe: "well conceived and planted disinformation documents").

My question on the DSM is this: How do we know that we are NOT being played as "Dan Rather" suckers again. How much do we KNOW about the authenticity of this memo? While all the content may be true, if the paper is NOT authentic then "forgery" is all that will be presented in the MSM and then the CONTENT will be conveniently lost in the discussion (convenient for *, D1ck, Rove & KKKompany).
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:02 PM
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1. This has already been covered. There isn't any question of authenticity
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 04:03 PM by The_Casual_Observer
apparently. The fact that it's real is probably why it has received so little coverage, nobody is going to take the fall but chimp and they don't like that.

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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:03 PM
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2. It's not a "memo." It's official meeting minutes.
They're in the government record, already signed off on as authentic. This is no memo found under someones file cabinet. These are official transcripts we're talking about. BushCo would have to accuse our only ally on the planet of forgery if he were to try to deny what has already been acknowledged as fact.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:09 PM
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5. Exactly
It's like asking how do we know if the congressional record is a forgery.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:03 PM
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3. The REAL smoking gun, bullets, and caper is the PNAC cabal. n/t
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:04 PM
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4. One can probably assume they are 'being played' one way or the other
:eyes:
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NeoGreen Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:14 PM
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6. apologies for spending time on my education on this...
but if it is a leaked "secret" document how do we "know".

The orginial IS a classified document right?
I mean, why would Dowing Street even confirm its existence?
Has some "back bencher" leaked it, that is do we know the source and the path from the orginal to the leak?

Again, I apologize for asking these "simple" questions on a subject that may have already been "put to rest", but there are so many threads on the DSM that I have apparently missed the one that covered this issue.

BTW
Thanks for the responses.
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