Oil, 9-11, Drugs, Social Security, Wall Street

[SoCalifer]

How deep does the rabbit-hole go?

"Michael Ruppert brings a pioneering, groundbreaking expose of 9-11, painting a stark and accurate picture of our world today and tomorrow. Featuring Special appearances by: Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D. (U.C. Berkeley); Former Assistant HUD Secretary Catherine Austin Fitts; John Metzger, Ph.D., Michigan State University; The Hon. Cynthia McKinney (D), Georgia; The Hon. Barbara Lee (D), CA; and the Hon. Ron Paul (R), TX."

This is a video of a presentation given by former LAPD narcotics detective Michael Ruppert. I hope many take the time to watch this very informative video. It's packed with information - albeit disturbing information. I think Mr Ruppert does an excellent job at showing and explaining much evidence and information, and I have to say, as you watch it, it keeps getting better - or should I say more disturbing.

Here's the links:

(part1): http://www.thelawparty.com/MediaPlayer/911/TruthandLies0f911Part156k.wmv

(part2): http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/911_the_truth_and_lies_part_2.wmv

(part3): http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/911_the_truth_and_lies_part_3.wmv

(part4): http://www.indybay.org/uploads/truthlies9-11part4.wmv

[pretzel4gore]

1. when you see it like this, it's so obvious!

"the cia didn't want to attack the gene pool (they imported more cocaine then the entire african american population could use) nor did they want to fund the contras and so on: what they wanted was to support the US economy..."
criminality has been tolerated for too long, and with junior bush it has become hideous even to the bad guys...as Mike Ruppert says 'to understand 911, the issues are drugs, and oil'...didya know a US forest service plane loaded with $1 billion in cocaine was busted at Mex City airport? how does the pigmedia hide this stuff?

[Al-CIAda]

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[SoCalifer]

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LOL Al-CIAda, I love your name. It is sooooooo appropriate when you know the CIA's history.

This former LAPD detective has some good information in this video huh pretzel4gore. Its amazing how they're able to get away with so much. It pisses me off to no end that these people are able to get away with what they do, and this video doesn't even get into the torture, terrorism and murder aspect of these clandestine opps.

[Al-CIAda]

11. And yes, I am very familiar w/Ruppert's work in that area. The SS scheme

to steal our money also fits in perfectly to his findings.

[wiggs]

4. Sibel

Sibel Edmons hinted at drug trade and money laundering in connection with 9/11

[Al-CIAda]

5. Sibel Edmonds- State Dept. Quashed 9/11 Links To Global Drug Trade

State Dept. Quashed 9/11 Links To Global Drug Trade
 -FBI Whistleblower

Sibel Edmonds- FBI Whistleblower, interview
SE: Everything – from drugs to money laundering to arms sales. And yes, there are certain convergences with all these activities and international terrorism.
CD: So with these organizations we're talking about a lot of money –
SE: Huge, just massive. They don't deal with 1 million or 5 million dollars, but with hundreds of millions.
CD: From your previous testimony and the examples I want to bring up next, it would seem that organized crime with terrorist links is really holding the reins inside powerful governments, even the American one. No?
SE: That may be, but I don't know. I didn't get high enough up on the ladder to find out. With all of this suspicious and unprecedented "state secrets" obstructionism from Ashcroft, it might seem that way, but I don't have any direct information.
CD: But what do think, within departments such as the Pentagon and the State Department. Do you suspect certain high officials may be profiting from terrorist-linked organized crime?
SE: I can't say anything specific with regards to these departments, because I didn't work for them. But as for the politicians, what I can say is that when you start talking about huge amounts of money, certain elected officials become automatically involved. And there are different kinds of campaign contributions – legal and illegal, declared and undeclared.
CD: Could this apparent toleration of dangerous criminal groups in the midst possibly be interpreted to mean that American policy is driven by the "ends justify the means" philosophy?
SE: But how are the ends possibly met by such activities? To this day, I just can't see how. What is happening does not benefit 99.9 percent of Americans – just a very small elite.
I'm no expert, but from what I have personally seen I can say that our national security is being compromised every day, because important investigations are being stopped, and potentially important clues are being overlooked. It's absolutely incredible that even after 9/11, certain individuals, foreign businessmen and others, among others, are still escaping scrutiny.
Okay, perhaps talking about the pre-9/11 world they could get away with saying "we didn't know," but to continue doing so – I mean, what if we are attacked by nuclear or chemical weapons, what will be their next excuse? That "we didn't know" it could happen? Come on! I can prove they are lying, because they know."
http://www.breakfornews.com/Sibel-Edmonds-Story.htm

[wiggs]

6. AMAZING

And isn't time to re-post what you have on Sibel? This stuff does relate to Downing Street and to the constant lying and greed that is becoming more apparent by the day.


More and more people are hearing and suspecting that something is seriously wrong with this administration. The public, and maybe the media, will go back to old scandals and problems at some point. Maybe they are ready to hear the Sibel and Plame stories now.

[Al-CIAda]

7. Links to other stories-

Collection of Sibel Edmonds stories-
http://www.breakfornews.com/Sibel-Edmonds-Story.htm

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"National Security Experts Demand to Be Heard

by Sibel Edmonds

The following letter to Congress is signed by 25 national security experts.
To the Congress of the United States:

.....
Omission is one of the major flaws in the Commission's report. We are aware of significant issues and cases that were duly reported to the Commission by those of us with direct knowledge, but somehow escaped attention. Serious problems and shortcomings within government agencies likewise were reported to the Commission but were not included in the report. The report simply does not get at key problems within the intelligence, aviation security, and law enforcement communities. The omission of such serious and applicable issues and information by itself renders the report flawed, and casts doubt on the validity of many of its recommendations.

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We believe that one of the primary purposes of the Commission was to establish accountability; that to do so is essential to understanding the failures that led to 9/11, and to prescribe needed changes. However, the Commission in its report holds no one accountable, stating instead that "our aim has not been to assign individual blame." That is to play the political game, and it shows that the goal of achieving unanimity overrode one of the primary purposes of this Commission's establishment. When calling for accountability, we are referring not to quasi-innocent mistakes caused by "lack of imagination" or brought about by ordinary "human error." Rather, we refer to intentional actions or inaction by individuals responsible for our national security, actions or inaction dictated by motives other than the security of the people of the United States. The report deliberately ignores officials and civil servants who were, and still are, clearly negligent and/or derelict in their duties to the nation. If these individuals are protected rather than held accountable, the mindset that enabled 9/11 will persist, no matter how many layers of bureaucracy are added, and no matter how much money is poured into the agencies....


-----signed-

Costello, Edward J., Jr., former special agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
Cole, John M., former Veteran Intelligence Operations specialist, FBI
Conrad, David "Mark," retired agent in charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs
Dew, Rosemary N., former supervisory special agent, Counterterrorism &Counterintelligence, FBI
Dzakovic, Bogdan, former Red Team leader, FAA
Edmonds, Sibel D., former language specialist, FBI
Elson, Steve, retired Navy Seal &former special agent, FAA &U.S. Navy
Forbes, David, aviation, logistics and govt. security analyst, BoydForbes Inc.
Goodman, Melvin A., former senior analyst/ division manager, CIA; senior fellow at the Center for International Policy
Graf, Mark, former security supervisor, planner, &derivative classifier, Department of Energy
Graham, Gilbert M., retired special agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
Kleiman, Diane, former special agent, U.S. Customs
Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Karen U., USAF (ret.); veteran policy analyst, DoD
Larkin, Lynne A., former operation officer, CIA
MacMichael, David, former senior estimates officer, CIA
McGovern, Raymond L., former analyst, CIA
Pahle, Theodore J., retired senior intelligence officer, DIA
Sarshar, Behrooz, retired language specialist, FBI
Sullivan, Brian F., retired special agent &risk management specialist, FAA
Tortorich, Larry J., retired U.S. Naval officer, U.S. Navy &Dept. of Homeland Security/TSA
Turner, Jane A., retired special agent, FBI
Vincent, John B., retired special agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
Whitehurst, Dr. Fred, retired supervisory special agent/laboratory forensic examiner, FBI
Wright, Col. Ann, U.S. Army (ret.); former Foreign Service officer
Zipoli, Matthew J., Special Response Team (SRT) officer, DOE"


http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/09/06/Politics/Whisleblowers.Slam.911.Report.Reforms-718249.shtml

[wiggs]

8. Conyers / Edmonds 08. nt

[donkeyotay]

9. wow, I didn't know this is what the whistle-blowers said

"When calling for accountability, we are referring not to quasi-innocent mistakes caused by "lack of imagination" or brought about by ordinary "human error." Rather, we refer to intentional actions or inaction by individuals responsible for our national security, actions or inaction dictated by motives other than the security of the people of the United States."

OSP? Bolton? Feith? Cheney? Bush? You mean like there was a coup and our country was hijacked?

[Al-CIAda]

10. "You mean like there was a coup and our country was hijacked?"

Yes, and yes.

[wiggs]

12. Sounds like important information doesn't it?

As I say...time to get ALL this stuff, Plame too, on the table and look at it as a whole.

Then we can see the forest instead of just the trees.

Edmonds, Plame, Niger, Bolton, DSM, Enron, Halliburton, Abu Ghraib, PNAC, N Korea, Chalabi, 9/11, Bandar Bush...all these are related and need to be pulled together.

[donkeyotay]

13. One of these days we'll find the right patterns to make sense of it

:hi:

Seems like not much interest in this, so I'll just go ahead and tell you which thread I'm working on at the moment. When Cheney went from helping the monkey pick his VP to becoming the VP, something interesting happened. Halliburton took over Dresser Industries. Many wallstreeters scratched their heads over this as Halliburton took on tremendous asbestos liabilities. I'm getting my info from Kevin Phillips' book, "American Dynasty," but others have also documented that Dresser was very close to the Bush family. Prescott Bush was on the board and managed Dresser. Dresser was a defense industry contractor going back to the development of the atom bomb. Dresser also moved to Texas. Poppy Bush went to Dresser after Yale in 1948. Dresser was deeply connected to the MIC and the Bush family.

Here's the scenario: Cheney tells the BFEE that he can make their asbestos liabilities go away if he's given the VP. He plans to do this by enriching Halliburton with enough defense contracts to let that company weather the liability while he also works tirelessly on reining in trial lawyers and creating the asbestos liability fund--which may be worthless with insurance companies running all these offshore scams.

So, there's some kind of deal made, and how this relates to the rest of the neocon nightmare I don't know. But I just have a hunch it could have all started with a bidness deal being made between these two.