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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:38 AM
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Arnold's new strategy, based on polling, to create a "phenomenon of anger"
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 12:38 AM by Rose Siding
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In the latest such call, a few days ago, Schwarzenegger's media expert, Don Sipple, outlined a strategy "based on a lot of polling" to create a "phenomenon of anger" among voters toward public employee unions. Firefighters, police officers, teachers and other state-paid workers have become the governor's harshest critics this year.

"The process is like peeling an onion," Sipple said, describing a multi-step plan for persuading voters that public-worker unions are "motivated by economic self-interest" instead of "doing the best job for the state."

The Thursday discussion, involving multiple contributors and three top Schwarzenegger strategists, offered a rare glimpse of the governor's "donor maintenance" effort: insider information, solicitous compliments, invitations to exclusive parties. It was also a window on the governor's attack strategy ahead of an expected Nov. 8 special election.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-donors5jun05,0,7671231.story?coll=la-home-headlines

That's right. An elected official *polling* to devise a strategy that will turn people against their neighbors. A plan, whispered to wealthy contributors to keep them appraised on the value of their purchase.

Now who is it again who is "motivated by economic self-interest"?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:46 AM
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1. I thought the poeple of Ca were seeing through this idiot!
Do you really think this strategy will work>
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:52 AM
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2. That article should piss off California residents.. and..
Ahnold the brainless for being exposed.. :rofl:

I'm not sure what Californians think.. but I wonder if they think he'll run again?

Remember his fear of debates? He was a no-show at the 2 most critical debates and only agreed to show up at the one that provided the questions ahead of time..

As the incumbent, he'll have to debate in EVERY poll.. I think he'll wuss out myself and won't run. Just a hunch :shrug:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:54 AM
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3. Ahnold wants Californians to hate public servants ?
Why doesn't Maria dump the gropinator?
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:57 AM
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4. Well...
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 12:58 AM by larissa
There could be a few things he's good at.. :o :o :o :o

........ :rofl:

(oh.. p.s. edit: that's in response to the "why doesn't maria dump him" question) ;)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:52 AM
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17. Get a load of MMOB's "pillow talk" campaign directed to
Maria:

http://www.themmob.org/maria/maria.html

I love the MMOBsters!
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:04 AM
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5. What I love about this is that they're stupid enough to admit
their strategy. Hellllloooo.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:09 AM
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6. DISGUSTING.
In the latest such call, a few days ago, Schwarzenegger's media expert, Don Sipple, outlined a strategy "based on a lot of polling" to create a "phenomenon of anger" among voters toward public employee unions. Firefighters, police officers, teachers and other state-paid workers have become the governor's harshest critics this year.

"The process is like peeling an onion," Sipple said, describing a multi-step plan for persuading voters that public-worker unions are "motivated by economic self-interest" instead of "doing the best job for the state."

I'm sickened by this kind of thing. This is an OUT and OUT lie. As if "privatizing" these services will deliver better and less expensive services to the people. Just another open door to poor service at the hands of untrained, inexperienced and unqualified low-wage workers, corruption, overcharging, kickbacks, padding and VICE, to say nothing of leaving thousands of people unemployed.

Who is this overpriced, overpumped up, steroid-addled idiot to stand there and act this way?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:19 AM
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7. Yeah, Ahnold is not exactly a model of a citizen
but Maria is most disappointing.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:49 AM
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8. Californians need to see Enron
I wish Move-On would buy air time to show the movie Enron on prime time TV. It reveals a lot about how Schwarzenegger got to power and how damaging deregulation and privatization of basic infrastructure can be.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:16 AM
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9. This is a sign of excellent leadership
Divide and conquer.
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jfern Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:35 AM
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10. Put out the message
Arnold says the NYPD and NYFD hate America.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 05:37 AM
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11. Yes, clearly teachers, firefighters and cops are
useless to society and "motivated by economic self-interest".

Unlike, say, fucking Bad Action Movie Stars.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 06:45 AM
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12. I guess "motivated by economic self-interest" now means...
making a salary to lead a middle-class life, good health care and a retirement that you can live on. On the other hand making $20 million dollars for a bad movie is not economic self-interest.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:54 AM
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18. Damn straight.
That man should thank his lucky stars he receives a paycheck, period.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 06:45 AM
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13. Arnold's so inept that this will backfire.
He can't turn the public against the public servants who pull children out of burning buildings, who protect the public from criminal harm, and who help build the future by teaching the next generation how to be good citizens.

Uh uh. (Head shaking) These folks are society's guardian angels and hanging a moniker of greed and self-interest won't stick to them, union or not.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:44 AM
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14. Son of a gun: Some history on Mr Sipple's familiarity with anger...

Regina and Don Sipple divorced in 1979. From left: Regina in an early modeling photo and after an alleged 1977 beating by Don.

The True Character of a Spin Doctor?

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Regina guessed that her ex-husband, Donald Sipple, one of the Republican Party's most successful political consultants, would do everything in his considerable power to portray her as a bad mother who didn't deserve custody of their son. In politics, Sipple was a master of manipulation -- that's why Republican senators and governors and presidential candidates had paid him millions. Sipple's skill at creating emotional and persuasive political advertisements had landed him jobs with some of the GOP's top figures, including Bob Dole, George Bush, Texas Gov. George W. Bush, and California Gov. Pete Wilson. Regina, by comparison, was a single mom struggling to raise a son -- 13 years, she and Evan had been alone together. Without a lot of money, without a lot of help -- just each other. Evan didn't even want to live with his father. He wanted to stay with his mother, in California, where he played football and tooled around with computers. But in Regina's experience, her ex-husband didn't hesitate to use the skills of manipulation in his private life as well as his public one, and she worried.
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It's not easy to speak up against a man who has made a living discrediting other people's public statements. Now 44 and living in Huntington Beach, California, Regina Sipple declines to speak openly about her ex-husband, saying she fears it would jeopardize Evan's fragile relationship with his father. Evan himself says, "I don't think I can talk because it would really get me in a jam with my dad."
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This article is based on court documents, depositions, and transcripts of the custody case. It's also supported by the accounts of friends and relatives of Sipple's ex-wives. Some, worried about the consequences of speaking out within the small world of Republican politics, asked to remain anonymous. But they agreed to speak because they are disturbed that a man they believe to be violent is advising leaders of the GOP........

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1997/09/blow.html
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:02 AM
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15. France has the answer ...
The General Strike.





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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:07 AM
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16. The Gov who admires Hitler is SCAPEGOATING now. What a shock.
Not.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:28 PM
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19. MRP (More Republican Propaganda)
They really are the Party of Propaganda -- all the frikkin time.

Hey, it's OK to tell the truth.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:44 PM
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20. Anger by haves against have-nots, fundies against mainstream --
the hallmarks of extreme-right-wing Republican power, the seeds of the destruction of our system as we've known it --
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:47 PM
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21. All I did...
was read the title to this thread, and IT WORKED. California voters are smart enough to direct the "phenomenon of anger" to the right place. Fear not.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:53 PM
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22. "The process is like peeling an onion," Sipple said...
Peel this.
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