The Death of the Angry Democrats

[kentuck]

To paraphrase Mark Twain, the reports of their death have been great exaggerated. With the reported demise of the Dean campaign, there is no more room for the "angry Democrat". America is not angry anymore.

Even CBS is reporting that the Dean campaign is over if he does not win NH. There is no reason to be angry anymore. Forget about going to war on a bunch of lies. It's nothing to get angry about.

Forget about those 500 young men and women that have died up to this point in the war. They captured Saddam Hussein. There is nothing to be angry about.

Yes, Dean's campaign is over and so is the short-lived era of anger that his supporters seemed to be caught up in. It was very exciting while it lasted. But, like the experts said, the Democrats cannot win with anger. The Dean campaign has died and so has the anger.

[barbaraann]

1. Just read the Yahoo message boards.

Most of the posters are SCORCHING Bush and his cronies! I can hardly tear myself away it's so inspiring to see Americans waking up.

[lancdem]

2. Hey, kentuck

I still think there's a lot of anger under the surface that will bring Dems to the polls in droves in 2004. Even if Dean doesn't win, that is not going away. His campaign just proved it was there.

[isbister]

3. The bush campaign on America is what angers me

The Dean campaign had nothing to do with my anger one way or another.

[Namvet04]

4. Dean made the mistake of trying to be like the rest, DK did it also

Dean shoulld have not gone down like a whimp to church with Carter. He should not brought his wife in at the last. Stick with who you are. We liked that. If his wife is busy taking care of hurting people do not take her away for a silly pancake day in Iowa or chili cookout.

Just my opinion is he started to be like the rest and it cost him.

I wish people on here would watch his scream speech and the another speech given at the same time by edwards. I never thought about edwards but that was the kind of talking to people that will win it for us not worrying about who did what in the Nam war like Clark does.

[aintitfunny]

5. I am a Democrat and I am Angry

It started with disgruntled. It ends with angry. Is it controlled?Oh yes. No reason to make a scene. But the fire that Dean lit has saved this party, IMO. We have been wimpy too long. That was really pissing me off. I do not think I am alone in this. I do not think I am the last of the angry democrats.

I am tired, sick and tired of the manufacturing of our political process. It is like a cookie cutter mentality. The candidate must be tall, the candiate must never step a foot or word out of line, the candidate must apeal to all demographics. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda. Democrats have warts and so it is. No Shame. Republicans have warts and want to legislate against them.

It is wholly unfair and makes me angry when the media and everyone else counts a candidate down and out before the voting in the first primary has even begun. I feel this way about any candidate in serious contention. It is as bad as giving out the pre-poll interview statistics on election day.

[Walt Starr]

6. All pink tutus, all the time

:puke:

No way. If the Democratic Party goes the third way, I'll be incredibly tempted to go the fourth way.

[WillyT]

19. Sorry, But This STILL Cracks Me Up !!!

LOL!!!

[Selwynn]

7. The problem isn't "anger" the problem is dean.

To me there is a difference between intense passion, and a general disposition of quick-tempered, short-sighted, hot-headed, rash, over-reacting behavior.

Passion is what I'm interested in, not all that other stuff. And a lot of people express their deep passion in different emotional ways. But Dean to me is a shining example that emotionalism, and hotheadedness are no substitute for deep passion. And I think there is only one democrat who reflects the kind of passion that we desperately need and that's Dennis.

As for all the rest, I think its a joke. I'll vote for for whoever the democratic nominee is, and I like some things about Clark, but only Kucinich shows me the kind of "passion with a point" that we need to see. Dean's was more for show and fundamentally missed the point anyway . In my book Kucinich is about 500 times the man of any other candidate, including Dean. That's also why he goes nowhere.

[dsc]

12. Please site, with direct witnesses, all those outbusts by Dean

I want either videos we can see or eyewitness accounts by reputable people.

[Cuban_Liberal]

8. I'm angry.

We're not 'dead' by any means. Actually, Dr. Dean is my 2nd choice. :)

[WilliamPitt]

9. The problem isn't anger

I'm angry. You're angry. We're angry.

But when was the last time you did anything smart when you were angry? I'd rather be coldly furious than hotly explosive.

[ulysses]

17. dear god

"coldly furious". "hotly explosive".

Wank, wank. "Tepidly orgasmic". You sound like a Harlequin novel, Will.

[WilliamPitt]

18. Take it as you like it

but the fact that a candidate doesn't rant in public shouldn't be some sort of half-assed indication that anger is dead within the party.

[ulysses]

21. my apologies.

I must have missed where we assumed that our anger *must* take a Deanish form. Get real.

You've done the "hot lead/cold steel" thing before, and I still fail to see the attraction of political sushi.

[quaker bill]

24. I know the elite are "angry", but polite about it in public

It just not a thing we would ever want to let the public see.

Oh! but wait, it's the public that has to get up off the couch and VOTE!!

It's OK though we all know a polite discussion of policy differences will just bring them running to the polls!

[sandnsea]

10. Birth of the fighting Democrats

Anger is a wasted emotion. Fighting and winning is where it's at.

[OHdem10]

11. This just one of their many moves to marginalize theLeft

As long as the left are looney and now"angry" the mainstream whomever they are should continue to ignore them. Marginalization is surest weapon of all. Kow tow now and we are in for one party rule for the next 50 years--Republicn that is.

[newsguyatl]

13. the death of angry democrats

ENSURES four more years of bush.

it's that simple folks.

[mot78]

14. The big irony of Dean's troubles is anger

Democrats are angry at Bush*, but they want to sublimate that anger in a useful way, and behind a strong candidate. Dean lost in Iowa because caucus-goers didn't think he had what it takes to beat Bush*. Electability and anger towards the GOP go hand-in-hand IMO.

[liberalnurse]

15. My anger has only been compromised by

the reality of how the majority of the democratic candidates are so rovian-lite.

[candy331]

20. If anger was displayed by Jesus Christ

then what's the problem? Do all these pundits and critics now know more than a perfect human? Anger can motivate people to take the needed action,channeling that anger into doing something rather than sitting on their derriere complaining. Why do people here fall for that crap. Who in the hell can be more hateful and angry than some right wing republicans. Those right wing talk show hosts like Rush, Hannity,O'Reilly tap into that anger and have become wealthy doing it. Yet pussy foot Democrats sit back and shiver buying all that crap about anger the media puts out. Have you ever thought about the reason they do it is because it is the weapon that makes them a winner and sure as hell don't want Democrats to catch on. They use it just like Walmart, they drive out the competition so they can have it all to themselves.
Bush is ruining the country yet do you hear of Republicans leaving because he said something stupid,(if so seems they all should be gone by now) the ones who say they will not vote for him are doing so on policy issues.

Those people who left Dean were never truly in his camp in the first place and if so it might be good they are gone since they shift with the wind. "The tuff don't get going when the going gets tuff"

[quaker bill]

16. It is a great loss

Anger motivates change. The people in the streets during the civil rights and anti-war demonstrations were not "coldly furious" they were hotly angry.

The people in the women's sufferage movement were not "coldly furious" inside players. They were hotly angry and out in the streets.

The people in the labor movement were not "coldly furious" inside players when the won us the 40 hour week and overtime, they were hotly angry.

The people in Ghandi's movement to throw aside British rule were not "coldly furious" they were hotly angry and out in the streets.

The people in the abolition movement were not "coldly furious" inside players, they were hotly angry and put their lives on the line for the cause.

Nearly all of the positive social change in this country and in most places around the world came about because people got angry enough to put their butts on the line and do something about it.

"Coldly furious" inside players write great white papers about what they want to do. Hotly angry people are the ones who get up off the damn couch and get the job done.

Risk adverse politics gets you the results we saw in 2000. A polite debate will leave this simian in the whitehouse looking just good enough to win again.

We are at grave risk of throwing away or being talked out of the one thing, specifically, the emotional energy that could get the job done.

Emasculated political rhetoric is the equivalent of silence. We all need to stand up and scream.

[ulysses]

26. brilliant.

Thank you. :thumbsup:

[David Zephyr]

22. Memo to My Fellow DU'ers: Anger Votes!

The polls in New Hampshire are turning and Dean is rising again.

There is rising disgust, and yes, anger, at how Doctor Dean's cheerful pep rally has been spun by his opponents and a Republican Meda into a "rant".

The backlash cometh.

Dean may not win New Hampshire, but he will place second.

Anger votes.

[kentuck]

23. Just for clarification.....

My post was meant to be tongue-in-cheek...There are those that think if Dean leaves, there will be no more angry Democrats. I don't believe that to be true. We are not stark-raving mad lunatics but many Democrats are angry about the direction Bush has taken our country, whether Dean stays or goes...

[David Zephyr]

27. I Think Most of Us Knew That, Kentuck...Cuz We Know You.

But I think you're "clarification" was wise. :hi:

[Bucky]

25. Anger is one of the five stages of healthy grieving. Then you get over it

Anger is also a powerful motivator. There's different kinds of anger. There's anger at injustice and then there's irrational hatred. Let's not confuse the two. Dean's people (well, most of them) are in the first category. They're mad because a bunch of oilmen have seized our government and sent our kids overseas to die for more oil. When the kids are back and the oil men are back in their corporate spider holes, we can start healthy grieving. Right now i just want us to kick their asses and get my country back.

Are you with me? Well then grab your torches and pitchforks and let's go get those motherfuckers!