Bill Moyers has the answer to the problem....

[NRaleighLiberal]

I was listening to the Stephanie Miller show a few days ago, and she interviewed Bill Moyers....he made a very perceptive statement. It no longer is about the truth for those in power - it is about their belief system. If the truth - the facts - don't fit the belief system, then it is dismissed. So many....most...of us seek and have the highest regard for the truth - but that is not what is not important these days. The sheep on the right - the blind followers who filter out anything that doesn't fit what they want to believe...they don't care about the truth. And we have to keep this in mind as we try to take this on.

Look at what's going on in the media - plucking Dean statements out and twisting them ...Look at the Newsweek issue, or Rathergate - the left reports something unfavorable, the machine goes to work and calls it a lie and it is splashed everywhere by the media and the right wing hate shows. O'Leilly and Hannity lie every 10 minutes - not to mention this administration - and it doesn't even get noticed by the media, never mind traction.

The media has been completely bought. It is hard, under these conditions to know exactly how to fight this. Then Dean comes out and fires us up, and half the party leaders go at him, rather than the real issues....geesh.

[yebrent]

1. He must be reading Lakoff.

One of Lakoff's main points is that when logic doesn't fit a persons belief system, or frame regarding a certain issue, they ignore the logic.

[SharonAnn]

3. It's "cognitive dissonance". Can't hold two opposing ideas so one

has to go.

If the belief system is the most powerful of the two, then anything that contradicts it is thrown out.

On the good side, sometimes it's the long-held belief that gets thrown out when a person awakens to the fact it's not true.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. Figures.

A fine explanation that answers why they went after a non-discernment faith like fundamentalism and folded it into the party.

[CitrusLib]

4. I keep hearing Jack Nicholson. "Truth?! You can't handle the truth!".

[rateyes]

5. Did you all know that Moyers..

trained to be a Southern Baptist minister?

[Don Claybrook]

7. Yes.

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[Jacobin]

8. He obviously overcame that particularly disability

long long ago. Didn't know that.

Do you have a link?

[rateyes]

9. He's a graduate of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in

Fort Worth, Texas. He grew up in Midland, TX. Had a documentary in which he told his story a few years back about the controversy in the SBC. I think he went from there, however, to serve as the press secretary for LBJ, I think. There's a lot of people, BTW, who have overcome that disability. He still practices the faith, though--He's just not a fundie who thinks that he knows the whole truth, and that anyone who disagrees is going to hell.

[Jacobin]

6. And people wonder why separation of church and state is so important

Religion is about blind faith and beliefs and emotions.

The state MUST deal in reality and facts, or it is fucked.