Minuteman founder has nasty mouth - makes threats

[donsu]

http://www.buzzflash.com/mailbag/05/06/mai05151.html

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Subject: A threatening email from the minutemen

I have been reading BuzzFlash for awhile, and I thought of you guys when I received this reply to an email I wrote to the minutemen. After reading a yahoo article that they plan to come to Texas, I wrote them that they weren't welcome here. This is what I wrote:

Subject: Do not come to Texas

Please, stay out of Texas!!! When you come here, you are the foreigner. We don't need some "out of staters" coming here telling us how to run our business. Maybe that anti-hispanic racism flies in Arizona, but we are doing just fine here without you. To me you are the foreigner, so move along a take your operation to the Canadian border!! (remember, the 911 hijackers came through the Canadian border) SO LEAVE US ALONE!!!

Look at the threatening email I received from them. I sent a copy to my rep and US senator.

Dear wanna-be Texan.

I am a real Texan....used to live there...looking forward to moving back. Sorry the MM are going to ruin your drug trade. How many kids in elementary school did you solicit drugs to today? How many slaves did you import into the US today for exploitation? You see, YOU are the devil in this plan. The MM are already forming in Texas and there are several hundred more coming soon from all across the nation. Thank you for your email address and email. We know where you are via covert email trace. . Expect to be watched by law enforcement during our visit. Yes, you are now on "that" list. :)


Founder - The Minuteman Project
The power of change through the power of peace. www.minutemanproject.com

I feel that I need to get this out to others so that people know what we are dealing with. I Know that you receive tons of emails every day, but consider this. Thank you.

A BuzzFlash Reader
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[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. That letter simply proves my point that Simcox is a racist

and should not be promoted nor supported on this board. If David Duke were heading the Minutemen there would be no question...Simcox is easily as bad as David Duke.

[whistle]

2. There you go, the Republican Brown Shirts

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Topic: Nazi Paramiliary groups and Arizona Minutemen
Antifascist

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posted 31 March, 2005 02:28 PM
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The purpose of this thread is to document how private soldiers and private organizations are used in right-wing political activities as para-military organizations. Eventually, these para-military expect reward for their thuggery and seek acceptance into the government formally. We can see this process with the evolution of the SS and SA in Nazi Germany. We can see the same dynamics in American society today with paramilitary groups, many former US soldiers, volunteering to assist the government with national security issues in an environment where everything is veiwed as a national security issue.

This examination is necessary because the United States government and the main stream media protects the identities of these groups and conceals the historical backgrounds of these individuals when their activities become unavoidably known.

The most important Nazi Paramilitary organizations where the SA (Sturm Abteilung, literally Storm Troops) and the SS (Schutzstaffel, literally Elite Echelon). The HJ or Hitlerjugend (Hitler Youth) was not really a paramilitary organizaiton in the beginning, since it was designed to organize and recruit young people for the Nazi movement.

The antecedent of Himmler's "Black Corps," or SS, is to be found in Hitler's private bodyguard, formed before the 1923 Putsch from a small clique of desperados known as the Assault Squad. The Assault Squad's few men, demobilized NCOs, freebooters, laborers, and adventurers, shared utter loyalty to the person of Hitler, whom they had sworn to protect at all costs.

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[Jara sang]

3. So.... they heve their own intelligence gathering services now?

What a bunch of fucking idiot dweebs. Those people are a menace.

[donsu]

6. don'cha think Poppy would lend the CIA to them?

do you really think they thought up the Minutemen all by themselves?

[Jara sang]

7. Good point, probably a quasi-governmental organization already.

Naaa... These guys are too idiotic.

[Warpy]

4. Vigilantes are always ugly

and they always screw up and make mistakes and kill innocent people. This bunch will be no different. Only when we get rid of the crowd in DC and only when they start murdering people will we get rid of this latest incarnation of the common lynch mob.

[acmejack]

8. They will probably generate a big "posse"

Here in Texas. I really worry about the rebirth of warlords and private armies.

[Adelante]

5. Eeeww

I never understand how this hateful bunch ever found support on a site like DU :puke:

[acmejack]

10. Where /when?

Were they supported? I am appalled to learn of that. A group of people whose psyche requires the reinforcement a big gun to be complete. It is tempting to launch an initiative to assign teams of monitors to them with sat phones and cameras to record their actions for posterity. The sat phones would enable them to send real time video.

[Adelante]

13. Many many threads

Throughout the time these MM were camped at the border.

[demwing]

9. I just signed up for their emails

which I intend to highlight here on DU, shining a little light on the dark recesses of their organization.

Brownshirts indeed...

[prole_for_peace]

11. i would email back and tell that f**ker that you have forwarded his

email to you local law enforcement since you saw it as a threat.

[starroute]

12. The roots of these groups lie in the 30's

The fascist overtones aren't coincidental -- there are direct lines of connection going back to the unabashed American fascists of the 1930's.

http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html

Although the {DuPonts'} coup never materialized, the unrelenting propaganda attack against Roosevelt and the New Deal reforms continued, spearheaded by the American Liberty League. The League listed as its main contributors the DuPont family, representatives of the Morgan interests, Robert Sterling Clark, the Pew Family (Sun Oil), and Rockefeller Associates. Its Treasurer was Grayson M.P. Murphy, MacGuire’s immediate boss. The League itself was ostensibly dedicated to the virtues of the Constitution, individual freedom and free market capitalism. But it claimed that all New Deal reforms were inspired by Communists within the Roosevelt administration. In the election of 1936, the League spent twice as much money as the Republican Party in trying to defeat Roosevelt.

Although the League disbanded after Roosevelt won his second term, it spawned a series of extreme right-wing groups and paramilitary bands which constituted a network that endured through the 1960s, and whose descendants are with us today. Their propaganda was anti-Communist and anti-Semitic; their tactic was violence. Some groups which the League financed were the Sentinels of the Republic (which labeled the New Deal "Jewish Communism"), the Minutemen and the Minutewomen.

Another group, the Southern Committee to Uphold the Constitution, was associated with the Silver Shirt Squad of the American Storm Troopers. The goals of this organization, headed by a Texas oil magnate, were to create a mass movement of whites in the South to dilute Roosevelt’s Dixie vote, and to stir up anti-black racism in order to attack organizing drives by the unions from the North.

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The main function of these hate groups was to enforce the will of right-wing corporate America, seeking to regain the political power it lost in the 1932 election. On the grassroots level, this intention translated into supporting the efforts of management to stop workers from unionizing. The most glaring example of this is the struggle at the General Motors plants (General Motors was owned by the DuPonts). The DuPonts employed the Black Legion, a sort of Northern Klux Klux Klan, which would terrorize workers, bomb union halls, and torture and murder organizers. The Legion was organized into arson squads, execution squads, and anti-Communist squads. Discipline within its own ranks was maintained with the weapons of torture or death and was strictly enforced. The LaFollette Committee found that the Legion had penetrated police departments, high government offices, and the Michigan Republican Party.

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/MM/fmu22.html

In 1934 Muse and Kirby organized the Southern Committee to Uphold the Constitution, financed mostly by the DuPonts and other northern industrial interests, in an effort to prevent Franklin D. Roosevelt's reelection. Two years later Muse was the leading organizer of Christian Americans, a group he formed to combat what he perceived as radicalism and subversive influences throughout the country. He believed that organized labor in the United States was the source of much communistic influence, and thus he led Christian Americans to support the antiunion movement. During and shortly after World War II, when laws to regulate and curb unions were passed in Texas and other southern states, Muse was a leading lobbyist in this effort. The Christian Americans worked for passage of right-to-work laws in sixteen states; the group's lobbying efforts were investigated by the Texas legislature in 1945, but the organization was cleared of all charges of misconduct.

[XemaSab]

14. Whatever happened

to the focus on militias as terrorist organizations?

After OKC, there was this big hoopla about militias and how they'll kill us all, then it died down.

This whole minuteman thing seems to be an extension of that... bunch of fat white unemployable assholes playing soldier... only this time it's in the desert instead of the woods, and they're using live and unwitting targets instead of each other.

As Jim Hightower said after OKC, "We thought it was a bunch of mid-easterners.... but it turned out to be midwesterners."

[roguevalley]

15. There are some states, I am sad to say that will never been visited

by me or my family. They scare me too much.

[tanyev]

16. Here--you're going to need this shirt.

www.oldamericancentury.org

[NoPasaran]

17. Some of these bozorellis are FROM Texas

Remember this posterboy for the American way of life?