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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:42 PM
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Dean speaks and nails it!
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 12:43 PM by saracat
"It's important to make the news, not be the news," he told them, according to Sen. Chris Dodd."


Dr. Dean understands what went wrong with last weeks mis speech. He gets it!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8185333/site/newsweek
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Gays_R_Family Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:54 PM
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1. And he's taking the media bull by the horns ...
He jumped right on the media's spin about him being a "bad bad name-caller" and turned the spin around so now the media is reporting about Dems "fighting back."

Good work, Doc!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:57 PM
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2. And how do you "make" the news????
Unless you do or say something controversial, the media will spin it in the Republican direction...I think Dean is on the right track.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:01 PM
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4. The Doctor doesn't agree with you. Making news is issue oriented. Being
the news is personal! Dean should NOT be the news about himself but he should make news about the party. The news is about what the Party does NOT what Dean says!
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Mich Otter Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:53 PM
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17. Dean is getting attention for the Democrats.
While we don't have any candidates out there getting in the news, Dean is getting some attention paid to what the Democrats are going to campaign on. I think it has more advantages than disadvantages.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:00 PM
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3. Go, go Dr. Dean, I just love this guy for his straight talk, no BS
:kick:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:07 PM
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11. That charge might be leveled in another direction as well.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:04 PM
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6. Oh Yeah, turn the table around baby!!!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:11 PM
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7. The DLC whore naysayers were the news.
The news was that some of the more complacent Democrats feel the need to stab Dean in the back while he does the dirty work. Nothing would have come of this if it hadn't been for that.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:19 PM
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8. That is certainly true
But the OP's point is true, too. The focus does need to be on the Democratic agenda issues, and not on Howard Dean, especially at the moment the Bush administration is disintegrating. I have faith that Chairman Dean understands this; I'm not as sure about DU at this point.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:47 PM
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9. Again, though, he wasn't the issue until other Dems attacked him. nt
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:05 PM
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10. Thank you. How refreshing to see logic!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:53 PM
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13. The point at which it became news was the point where the DLC
took it upon themselves to attack him. QED
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:22 PM
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12. Of course he gets it, he isn't stupid
Too bad he couldn't have just said that a week ago and circumvented this whole "Dean Scorned" debacle.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 03:32 PM
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14. He isn't perfect, and we knew about his flaws! But we loved him for them
But now, he needs to be more in conrtol over what he says.And, from the Press Conference I saw, I think he will.As everyone said, they need to talk about the "issues" not whatever the media wants to make of what Dean says.And Dean needs to master sound bites and I think he will!
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 03:42 PM
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15. He also understands
that the Kerry team failed to heed this simple message during the election cycle. I will always be a diehard Kerry fan, but some advisers led his campaign into Rove's jaws.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:50 PM
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16. Since Dean should not be the news then why didn't the Democrats
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 04:52 PM by candy331
command the news? They were on the scene before Dean. Where were they in 2000 when Bush waltzed into the WH? Where were they in 2002 when they lost the Senate? Where were they in 2004 when Bush took another waltz? Seems Kerry waltzed promptly over to say goodbye conceded defeat then promptly waltzed off the scene for some months. Go back and read the many threads asking where Kerry was and why he was not speaking up after the election. Dean is shaking up things and he should get the credit, if the Dems wanted the credit they should have gotten off their cowed behinds and hurled bombs instead of slithering low into hibernation. One man commands so much attention whereas a whole group can barely be heard until stoked from the Dean fire.. Something is wrong with that picture. Dean is getting the attention and getting the issues out at the same time and I don't have one iota of a problem with it. Seems Biden and Lieberman along with Hillary keep their mugs on the screen and you don't hear this yapping about them. I wonder why. Dean is the man of the hour because his time has arrived whether it be chairman/other.
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