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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:31 PM
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Poll question: What do you think are Biden's chances of winning the nomination in 2008?
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:33 PM
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1. Slim and None
And Slim just left the building. ;)
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:36 PM
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2. I "used" to think Joe would be a good candidate
But not any more. He has made so many "bad" decisions lately the only way I could conceivably vote for him if he got the nom. But even then I would have to hold my nose and vote. And thats only because he's pro stem cell - unless he changes his mind about that.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:37 PM
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3. As long as he slams Dean
he has no chance whatsoever.

What do you want to bet Dean has a higher rank on the popularity scale??
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:38 PM
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4. This is totally speculation on my part, but I have the feeling he has
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 07:42 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
some personal skeletons in his closet.

Now, I have preemptively prevented myself from ever running for more than the local water board, due to my super size closet skeletons, so I'm not passing judgment.

However, if you are the Democratic candidate for president, you better be squeaky clean, something I'm thinking Biden is not.

If you're the repub candidate, if you haven't committed 1st degree murder, you're gold.

And a first degree murder conviction may not even disqualify you if the fundies have your back and you claim to be born again.

MKJ
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:42 PM
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6. a little Gannon connection?
is that what you mean?

Look he's the guy that gave us Clarence Thomas--what else needs to be said?
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:48 PM
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8. LOL, I was really kind of nebulous about it,, you were laser focused!
I hate to say that "I just have a feeling", but I do.

If I was pressed for more details, I would probably be thinking a routine marital infidelity, although if Eddie Murphy and Hugh Grant can get caught with hookers and transvestites, I guess anything is possible.

The rich and powerful seem to be looking for that little extra "kinky" kick.

BTW, the whole Gannon thing is beyond creepy...and the MSM is staying away from that story in droves. MKJ

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:40 PM
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18. He has a plagiarism scandal in his past
that managed to derail him the last time he tried to run for president. I don't see anything that would make that go away.

Apart from that, I just don't see him as having very wide appeal. He comes off too much like a used car salesman.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:41 PM
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5. I'm not sure
They just had a campaign over in Britain, so maybe he can troll the speeches for material...
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LuPeRcALiO Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:45 PM
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7. It's a lock
in Joe's World. Otherwise, less than zero.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:49 PM
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9. Where's the 'snowball in hell' choice.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:54 PM
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10. somewhat higher than kucinich and Vilsack, somewhat lower than...
Edwards and Clinton
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:13 PM
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11. I keep mistaking him for a Republican.
That ought to tell you how I voted!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:26 PM
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12. IF
Democrats are fucking demented....then yes, he could be.

Just beware of the media working their agenda. They are the ones that will try to make whatever they want.....So.
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JHBowden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:27 PM
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13. He'd be like Orrin Hatch in 2000
The dude is just too Washington and offers nothing new. Perhaps a Biden campaign could work with a message of "Honesty and Reform," but that would be a very hard sell given his brilliant work for the finance/credit card behemoths.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:31 PM
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14. The DEMOCRATIC nomination??
No chance at all. I dont know about other parties.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:32 PM
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15. Once I Thought This A Good Idea....
Now... he's in the TANK!!

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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:36 PM
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16. In my amateur opinion...
he might have some appeal among the conservative wing of the party, but other folks like Clinton or Warner probably have a better shot at securing these votes. So my magic 8-ball reads "outlook not so good".
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:40 PM
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17. Wanna see the Greens get more votes than the Dems?
Not even the DLC is dumb enough to run that asshole.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:42 PM
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19. He'll get the nomination when....
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 08:43 PM by ocelot

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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:47 PM
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20. LOL!
And that flying pig is the mascot for hell's new ice hockey team. :rofl:
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:48 PM
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24. Pink Floyd needs it back for the Live 8 show first
Then they can pass it on to ---> :evilgrin:
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:55 PM
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21. Dan Quayle has a better shot....
of wrapping up the Democratic nomination in '08. :eyes:
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:28 PM
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22. If he will not backup Dean, I will not not backup him n/t
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 09:33 PM by patricia92243
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:33 PM
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23. How 'bout: Who cares?
All these "How about So-and-So in 2008" threads are stupid.

They're distractions from the real work of 2006. If 2006 doesn't go our way, we could run Jesus for president in 2008 and he wouldn't be able to either win or get anything done even if he did win.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:50 PM
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25. the same as the last time he tried to run
NIL!
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:10 AM
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26. Biden has no idea how unacceptable he is, or why.
He looks in the mirror and only sees one face. The rest of us look at him and see at least two.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:36 AM
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36. Agree totally.
He ought to get out more. He'd be schocked to find out what the base thinks of him.
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:33 AM
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27. I think that Biden is going to be 2008's
"Joementum" candidate.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:48 AM
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28. He'll have a hard time if Hillary is running
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:25 AM
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29. Go read a great book called "What it Takes" by Richard
ben Cramer. It's about the 1988 elections including the Dem primary, and you'll find out why Biden didn't have it.

Of course, there is another side: the bar has now been lowered so that you don't have to have "what it takes" to be President any more, and Biden is far superior to Bush in any way I can think of, so maybe he has a real shot. I was very disappointed in his spineless behavior during the Clarence Thomas hearings but he seems to have grown a pair in recent years.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:35 AM
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30. Zero, but then I would've said the same thing about
Kerry.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:03 AM
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31. Anyone...
Anyone who doesn't see through this guy's pandering and other bullshit certainly WILL see through it by the time he begins campaigning. He is a politician of the worst sort - it wouldn't surprise me if he had a poll that tells him what to eat for breakfast.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 09:48 AM
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32. Absolutely no chance
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 09:51 AM by MathGuy
The 1988 Neil Kinnock plagiarism scandal eliminated his chances for good. The media would constantly be showing footage of the original Kinnock speech alongside Joe Biden's ripped off version and making him look ridiculous.

See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/frenzy/biden.htm
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:00 AM
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33. He's so positive, just before he's so, well, good buddy, oh well, ya know.
A Dean wanna be without the balls to carry it through.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:18 AM
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34. didn't vote-no "fuck him" option otherwise I would have voted.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:31 AM
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35. I like Boden, but no long term Senator has a chance!
Joe is one of the few Dem Senators who aren't afraid to say what he thinks most of the time. He gets emotional and is most of the time believable.

Unfortunately, I don't think any long term Senator has a chance in a National Election. Because of the way the Senate operates, there's just way to many statements and votes that could be used against them. If I remember right, the last President elected directly out of the Senate was Jack Kennedy, and that was a very long time ago!
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:12 AM
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37. Co-opted Joe
No chance in Hell, Joe, save your breath.
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