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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:47 AM
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Poll question: Will justice be fulfilled by the impeachment or resignation of G W Bush
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:02 AM
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1. He has already wrought far too much injustice.
After what he and his party have done to this country and to its perception throughout the world, not to mention what has been done to the Iraqi people, impeachment, unlikely as it is, can never be enough to bring about justice. But it's a start! :patriot:
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twenty4blackbirds Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:44 AM
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2. It's not just him, it's the system that selected him.
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 06:45 AM by twenty4blackbirds
Unfortunately.

I fail to be convinced that debasement of Himself is sufficient to prevent this similar situation happenning again. That people will fail to remember:
  • 'The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.' - Thomas Jefferson, 3rd president of US (1743 - 1826)

  • 'I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.' - James Madison, 4th president of US (1751 - 1836)

People will forget:
  • 'The only real prison is fear, and the only real freedom is freedom from fear.' - Aung San Suu Kyi, Burmese dissident & politician (1945 - )

  • 'For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.' - Nelson Mandela, S. African black civil rights leader (1918 - )

  • 'There can be no real individual freedom in the presence of economic insecurity.' - Chester Bowles, US diplomat & economist (1901 - 1986)

  • 'Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.' - William Pitt, British Prime Minister (1783-1801, 1804-06) during the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic wars. (1759-1806)

Politicians and people fail to practice:
  • 'When men are brought face to face with their opponents, forced to listen and learn and mend their ideas, they cease to be children and savages and begin to live like civilized men. Then only is freedom a reality, when men may voice their opinions because they must examine their opinions.' - Walter Lippmann, US author & journalist (1889 - 1974)
http://www.quotationspage.com/
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:45 AM
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3. The entire administration
Needs to be impeached, not just Bush.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:15 AM
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7. Exactly! n/t
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:35 AM
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4. Impeachment would just be the beginning...
...of bringing the thugs to justice.

After the impeachment they must all be tried in the International Criminal Court.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:44 AM
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5. Another thing I wonder about...
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 07:47 AM by Independent_Liberal
Some believe he won't be impeached, they believe he'll just resign like Nixon to avoid impeachment. I can see that happening. I can see him leaving the White House in disgrace, getting on the helicopter with Laura, and waving goodbye.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:04 AM
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6. Control
The major reason Bush will not be impeached is that Republicans control both houses of Congress. The House of Representatives will never convict Bush of crimes. Even if the Democrats take control of Congress Bush may never be impeached. Democrats need to win control of Congress.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:18 AM
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8. True, Democrats need to win back control of the Congress
I know a lot of people on here think that since Republicans control the Congress, Bush won't be impeached. However, not all Republicans support the Bush agenda. I think we'd just have to find which Republicans are on our side. It might be difficult, but I guess anything's worth a shot.
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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:46 AM
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9. Too stubborn to resign
and too stupid to recognize his faults. It will take a lot to get this republican controlled congress to even consider impeachment. If the pressure mounts to a boiling point impeachment proceedings could happen, but they would just play it out and not get rid of him. He and his cabinet should be prosecuted and brought to justice. It is the only way we can redeem ourselves with the rest of the world community.

I just wonder how the DSM are going to play out in the upcoming trial of Saddam. I am sure his defense is going to bring them up and emphasize the illegal nature of the war on Iraq.
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