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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:39 PM
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Did Cheney threaten potential GOP presidential candidates today?
Something struck me when I was watching Meanmouth at the National Press Club today.

He was asked a question from the audience about the 2008 race -- who did he think might be a candidate?

His answer? Something to the effect that candidates would be judged on whether or not they supported the "successful" Bush-Cheney presidency.

It sounded as if he thinks he will have a lot of power over the party come 2008, and is planning a campaign of personal destruction against any Republican who might repudiate or turn against the Bush-Cheney administration.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:41 PM
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1. It's a coup - they succeeded in taking over in 2000
There is no Republican Party outside the bush-cheney ticket. This seems to be taking a very long time to sink in for a lot of people.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:49 PM
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5. yes and the bush-cheney ticket is an entity unto itself. There is no depth
or degree of crime they won't sink to, in order to gouge, grab and grub money here and around the world.

It's heartening to read a few Republicans, moderate and conservative, are clearing their throats and beginning to speak against the regime.
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:04 PM
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14. 1980
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:39 PM
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26. 1980 was the beginning of the end
1992 was a temporary setback. 2000 was the coup d'état and 2002 and 2004 were seizing of absolute power.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:41 PM
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2. Good.
Since the people appear to be turning against the shrub/cheney presidency now. At least the polls seem to say so.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:42 PM
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3. is there a transcript of this
love to read it
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:45 PM
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4. "I Find Your Lack of Loyalty Disturbing"


Darth Cheney: "I Find Your Lack of Loyalty Disturbing"

Candidate: "<gag> <gasp> <choke> <gurgle>"
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:51 PM
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6. intended as a not-too-subtle hint to John McCain?
"keep your mouth shut or we will destroy you"
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:25 PM
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7. Since there is no successful Bush-Cheney presidency to support
I guess they're not under any obligation.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:29 PM
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8. The arrogance of this asshole
knows no bounds.

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blondie333 Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:31 PM
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9. "Successful" Bush-Cheney presidency
Maybe it's me but I find the statement made by Cheney chilling. And no one in the media seems to care that he made the statement nor the implications of such statement.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:30 PM
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10. me, too
It doesn't appear that anyone present at the Press Club considered it too carefully. But most of them appeared to be asleep.

I think it's shocking and totalitarian in nature.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:40 PM
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11. go to c-span.org
Watch the video. The question comes at about 49 minutes. You ought to be able to get right there on realplayer. On listening again, it's worse than I remembered.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:53 PM
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12. who cares, cheney will die of a heart attack by next year.
.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:01 PM
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13. That would be sad, but I think you miss the point
Cheney doesn't exist as a bad politician in and of himself. He represents powerful economic interests who are seeking to profit from the country's wealth to the detriment of the majority of the citizens who own this country. If Cheney kicks off... well, we all have to pay that final debt.

And it'd be the first time in his life Dick Cheney has ever paid off a debt.

But whoever takes his place will just as ably represent the rich and powerful in their attempts to disempower the rest of us. If you don't get that, if you reduce the whole situation to the simple formula of "Dick Cheney is a bad person; I hope he dies" you don't get the whose power structure that made Cheney who he is and will eventually elevate his successors.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:09 AM
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31. Very astute
and yes, education is under attack. The neocons prefer dumb people/sheeple.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:14 PM
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15. How long can they keep up the lock-step?
How long will the Christian Taliban stay allied with the corprorate mega-polluters? I'd love to see it all fall to pieces...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:54 PM
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18. Me too
Now that'll be a good show.
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:36 PM
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25. They can't
The corporate whores want to make money of off sex & porn....whereas the Christian Taliban wants to stone to death anyone who consumers sex & porn.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:46 PM
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16. I don't hear a threat in that
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 07:47 PM by Jack Rabbit
Just the usual Orwellian language.

Fascism is Democracy
Failure is Success
Colonial Occuaption is Liberation
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:53 PM
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17. John McCain
Bingo
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:49 PM
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19. I'm sure it was a veiled threat... He threatened Sen. Wellstone
about two weeks before Wellstone's plane crashed that he better not vote against the Iraq War.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:16 PM
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21. bush/cheney in 08 stealing elections since 2000
"chilling "indeed.. is poor Wellstone for having died from a close encounter with the actual ruling emperor

another mysterius plane crash like JFK jr who crashed on a "foggy" nite near Nantucket but to the locals who live near the shore..
There was no FOG that nite..they could'nt lie that one past me..
beautiful clear wheather that wk
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:28 AM
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36. "There will be severe ramifications for you and the state of Minnesota."
"At a meeting full of war veterans in Willmar, Minn., days before his death, Wellstone told attendees that Cheney told him, "If you vote against the war in Iraq, the Bush administration will do whatever is necessary to get you. There will be severe ramifications for you and the state of Minnesota."

http://www.active-indigos.org/articles/Cheneys_Threat_to_Wellstone.htm

Cheney is an evil bastard.

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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 09:25 AM
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40. cheney/bush
actually repesent selective legal mass murder ..

for now its dissidents like Wellstone..Kennedy and Muslims but this is just starting

'We want the world and we want it NOW.."
lyrics by the Doors

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Gay Green Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:59 PM
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20. "judged on whether or not they supported the... Bush-Cheney presidency"
Beyond disgusting.

:puke:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:12 PM
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23. it says to me...
....that he considers himself the king maker still.

Of course it could mean this: "We're controlling the voting machines, so we'll be in charge, fully."
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:27 PM
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22. I take it as a shot at McCain
I don't think Cheney is going to run, I'm sure he and W want a hand in picking their successor.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:28 PM
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24. McCain deserves these cretins knocking at his door.
I use to respect him....not after the last selection. He is a ass licker and can go pound sand.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:41 PM
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27. Alfred W. bush
I remember when the nuns would order us to not read Mad mag.

Thanks.now I know why the nuns issued the edict of Mad

AMAZING physical similarities!!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:09 AM
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30. Another For Ya !!!


But I DO like that morphing one above!!!

:woohoo:
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:20 AM
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32. that morph is great!
I wore my 'Nation' Alfred E Newman 'worry' t-shirt the first day of the CA dem convention. Someone commented that it was an insult 2 Al E. I had 2 agree.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:46 AM
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39. What Me Worry?
:rofl:
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:57 PM
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28. You're assuming the ol ticker will hold out that long...

:evilgrin: ~~ Someone in HELL has a slot reserved just for Heinous Chenious ~~ :evilgrin:
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:02 AM
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29. He who controls Diebold, controls the Country. Cheney is basically
saying: "continue to support our raping and pillaging policies, and we MAY allow you to be elected."
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:22 AM
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34. And ES&S, which actually is the bigger Republican backed company.
They seem to have flown under the radar due to all the scrutiny and scandal regarding Diebold.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:21 AM
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33. The good news
This statement clearly will link the next repub candidate to this current malAdministration, the same bums whose favorable numbers are in the toilet. Let them choose someone who APPEARS to be moderate, this statement will link the little minion to their evil masters.





:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:24 AM
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35. No they are fighting with themselves let them, in fact help them!
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EFF_BUSH Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:44 AM
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37. you know, technically he's right
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 05:45 AM by EFF_BUSH
His answer? Something to the effect that candidates would be judged on whether or not they supported the "successful" Bush-Cheney presidency.


By 2008, anyone running for president who supported the Bush-Cheney presidency will completely tank and fail miserably. They'll be sent home and not be taken seriously ever again.

Bush's approval rating is what, 42% after SIX MONTHS back on the job. It'll be in the 30s by the time this is all over, and anyone who supported them will be on the chopping block.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:07 AM
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38. Attention Senator McCain--get on board or you're screwed.
Maybe that's why McCain's having his little press conference with Frist re Bolton.

After a short burst of freedom, they've zapped his shock collar and he's come cringing back to the fold.
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