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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:50 PM
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Rawstory's Path of War Timeline - excellent work!
http://www.rawstory.com/exclusives/muriel/path_of_war_timeline_613.htm

From PNAC's letter to Clinton to

<snip>
"May-July 2003

The British Ministry of Defense's most senior biological weapons expert and adviser to intelligence agencies on Ira, Dr Kelly was the anonymous source for BBC reports in May 2003 that a dossier used by the Blair Government to justify invading Iraq had been "sexed up." After being revealed as the BBC's source and grilled before a parliamentary inquiry, Dr Kelly was found dead in July 2003. (The Age)"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:53 PM
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1. thanks this is a real story
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doubleplusgood Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:54 PM
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2. excellent !!! n/t
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:22 PM
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18. doubleplus - where did you get that
picture of the angry fascist woman? I love that!
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doubleplusgood Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:07 PM
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30. the Propaganda Remix Project
Hundreds of similar posters...here's the link: http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/PhotoAlbum1.html



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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:44 PM
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38. thanks for the link
those are great.
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:00 PM
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3. Excellent, excellent, excellent!!!
This is what I've been wanting to see!

Get this to Conyers, et al.

This might also be of interest regarding this timeline...

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/valerie_plame.htm
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:01 PM
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4. cool website!
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:27 PM
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20. question
I've always wondered, what is the source of this statement:

Mr. Wilson identifies Karl H. Rove, Bush’s so-called White House advisor, as who had leaked it out to the Washington Post that Wilson’s wife is a CIA agent of 26 years. As a consequence of this leak, her entire team of 70 overseas assets were liquidated.


thanks
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 04:08 PM
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40. La la - did Wilson say this in an interview?
He is supposed to say this in his book - but I don't know if he said it on tape.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=15989
<snip>
Who outed Valerie Plame? Joe Wilson points a finger at Lewis Libby
Posted on Friday, April 30 @ 10:07:25 EDT
This article has been read 2245 times.
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Former Envoy Talks in Book About Source of C.I.A. Leak

By David Johnston and Richard W. Stevenson, New York Times

WASHINGTON — Former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV says in a new book that he believes the White House official behind the disclosure of his wife's identity as an undercover C.I.A. officer was "quite possibly" I. Lewis Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff. But Mr. Wilson offers no firm evidence to support his assertion, and the White House has denied it.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:03 PM
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5. I just read it. It is excellent!
:kick:
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senaca Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:24 PM
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6. time line
This is a great timeline, however, the dates of U.S. getting out of the various treaties like nuclear arms treaty/bio-chem warfare treaty, the international court etc. are not included. Wouldn't these be a vital part of this timeline?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:26 PM
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7. Good point -
Maybe they will add them.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:30 PM
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8. Yes, but there
Are only two of us reporting and one researcher. We still have from 2003-2005 to add. So please be patient. John lost power today and I lost power last night, been a tough weekend.
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:32 PM
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9. Thanks lala_rawraw for the great work! n/t
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senaca Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:51 PM
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11. timeline
Thanks for all your effort in creating this timeline. I think it will be intregal in showing the whole picture. Sorry if I sounded impatient. I'm more excited that it's all coming together.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:29 PM
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15. not at all...
I fully understand your frustration. I want the whole story on most things before I have even written it or found support for it. We just need, as humans, to know. No worries. I am just snippy for lack of sleep. Plus, per usual, I have gone into a flare. And lost power due to storm. Mother nature is really kicking my arse.
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Bravo411 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:16 PM
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13. Do you need help?
Let me know. I'd be more than happy to help out.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:27 PM
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14. Yep, but
Too late to bring you up to speed and sign Confid docs and all that good stuff. But you want a research job? Send me your info. We need help to be sure. I am going to take a nap real quick and then finish article sometime tonight. LA
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:51 PM
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17. it was great work La la
very impressive - totally informative.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 03:57 PM
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39. The guardian has a time line posted, perhaps it will help you?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:44 PM
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10. M$M sucks compared to all you bloggers and Rawstory is HOT
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Bravo411 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:14 PM
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12. Great Work...
piecing together all the info.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:46 PM
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16. RAWRAW
Long time fan of Raw Story.

Will you be putting this information together in a pdf? It would be nice to be able to email the whole thing....to our republican parents et al ;)
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:33 PM
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19. Aw. I just LOVE this kind of stuff!!!
Lays everything out, nice and tidy and CLEAR!!!

This is GREAT!!!! Thank you!!!!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:31 PM
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21. Only a Nazi
Would look at this and still stand by the Bush Administration.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:03 AM
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22. Separating the wheat from the chaff
Those who refuse to see what is under their nose, and continue to support this criminal regime, are guilty of complicity. They will have their own special place in history & in hell:grr:
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Lefergus70 Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:33 AM
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23. In one glance you see a case for impeachment
The fact that the British Memo is stirring interest now, after years of deception by the neocons went largely unchallenged, must be a sign that the mood is changing in the U.S., and especially in Washington. Can impeachment be far behind?

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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:17 AM
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24. Thanks for link! eom
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 02:17 AM by burrowowl
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:23 AM
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25. Bookmarked, Recommended, And Kicked !!! - Thank You !!!
Tick... Tick...Tick...

:nuke:
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:08 AM
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26. Excellent, I will now have nightmares from reliving every step I watched,
heard or read during this timeline when I was screaming out loud, "they are fecking lying to us!" And hardly anyone saw what I saw. The PNAC starting this timeline out with the 1998 demand to Clinton is so appropriate. We are living out their neocon wet dream, a sorry ass wet dream that 1,700+ soldiers have died and will continue dying for ...as well as countless Iraqi civilians. Damn them all to HELL! How could this country be so fecking stupid! How could so many Congressmen/women and Senators have so many stupid aides who failed to do the research necessary to let them see what tomfoolery they followed Bush in to?? God, this is sick!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:12 AM
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27. Update from Rawstory!
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/%7Emhl24/leaksbriefingv3.htm

<snip>
"Leaked Cabinet Office papers, September 2004: Evidence of false statements made by Tony Blair to Parliament and the media"

Blair lied!!!!!

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:51 AM
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28. Terrific! Add date when U.S. contracted for GitMo construction?
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 11:52 AM by snot
Many thanks for this excellent time-line!

Pls take a look at the info here re- when the Bush admin entered a contract for construction at GitMo, i.e., June 29, 2000: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1853153 . This could be a great addition!
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:54 AM
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29. More updates coming
We are short staffed, so we are adding as we go and we still have thousands of pieces of info to go through, some of which will end up in timeline.

Oh, and let me share my rant with all of you:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3856023&mesg_id=3856023&page=
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:16 PM
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32. Great rant!
I wish I could help you out. You do amazing work - keep it up!
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:53 AM
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41. Great! nt
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:08 PM
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31. EXCELLENT WORK. I've already sent it to Conyers, Kerry and Kennedy.
Thanks so very very much for the effort this took.

You all deserve true Medals of Freedom!

Going, now, to send this to everyone I know including lots of media outlets.


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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:42 PM
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33. Just Wondering When This Was Published ???
Haven't had a chance to go through the whole thing, links, etc.

Is this a recent work?

I guess what I'm asking... is does it have the new Downing Street Memo\Minutes reflected in it, or is it a separate piece?

:shrug:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:58 PM
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34. it was published yesterday - it is a work in progress.
keep checking back at rawstory.com for updates.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:27 PM
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36. Thank You !!! - It's Wonderful, And I Sent A Link To Malloy !!!
Get it some exposure, no???

:hi:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:43 PM
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I believe those at Rawstory would like that!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:43 PM
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37. delete - dupe
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 03:20 PM by FLDem5
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:23 PM
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35. I'd only add
The two quotes from Condi and Colin in 2001 where they state that Sadamm is not a threat, he is contained, and that there are no weapons. You know the ones I mean? Sure I could try and find them and posts links but I'm too lazy. Someone else will. :-D
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gordontron Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:55 AM
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42. thanks! n/t
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