Dean sour grapes about Iowa comment

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From Don Conley's Journal

Well, after giving props to Howard Dean earlier today, now I have to kick his butt. His comment today that he lost the Iowa caucus because of "dirty tricks" to me is far more stupid than his red faced rant on Monday.

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1. Got a link?

thanks

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3. Link

http://www.danconley.com/

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2. That's what I call "DEANIAL"....

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4. this is bullshit

let's talk about the actual quote:

"Dean said he was surprised by the 'under the table' campaigning he faced during the Iowa caucus and said the state needs to prevent such negative attacks if it wants to keep the nation's leadoff presidential vote".

Please show me where Dean says he 'lost because of dirty tricks'.

Dirty tricks like, umm, this one? :eyes:

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5. A Bitter Denial...

of reality by The Doctor

physician, heal thyself

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6. "if Iowa wants to keep the nation's leadoff presidential vote"? Ha. That's

Dean for you, after the '98 tapes were revealed, he claimed was okay with the Iowa system.

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7. Dean "Demands" Iowa caucus reform (NY Times)

Critical of Caucuses, Dean Demands Changes in Iowa

By JODI WILGOREN

Published: January 25, 2004

EW CASTLE, N.H., Jan. 24 — Five days after his damaging third-place finish in the Iowa caucuses, Howard Dean said Saturday that the state should regulate discussion inside caucus rooms or lose its premier status in the presidential nomination process.

"I like the Iowa caucuses a lot and I think they should be first, but they have to have a process that is good for democracy," Dr. Dean said on his campaign bus as he headed to Dover, N.H., to knock on the doors of undecided voters. "The kind of stuff that's going on with the phone calls and all that under the table is not particularly good for democracy, and I didn't know it went on inside the caucuses. And if it does it should not be permitted."
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Later, speaking after a packed forum at a picturesque coastal hotel here, Dr. Dean said he would not participate again unless the rules were changed to prohibit negative campaigning during the caucuses.

His complaints concern the internal debate that unfolds in each precinct after the initial round of voting, when supporters of different candidates try to sway one another. Dr. Dean said he had been surprised to learn that aides to one of his rivals, Senator John Edwards of North Carolina, circulated booklets to Iowa precinct captains with instructions to paint Dr. Dean as "an elitist from Park Avenue" and Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts as "part of the failed Washington politics."

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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/politics/campaign/25DEAN.html?ex=1075611600&en=99f002a92851752f&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

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8. Amazing

"I like the Iowa caucuses a lot and I think they should be first, but they have to have a process that is good for democracy,"

That's just pathetic. Petulant and pathetic.

"Later, speaking after a packed forum at a picturesque coastal hotel here, Dr. Dean said he would not participate again unless the rules were changed to prohibit negative campaigning during the caucuses."

What a hypocrite. I don't think he'll be participating again whether he wants to or not.

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9. I've no idea why he lost Iowa!

I gave up trying to understand the Iowa caucus process, and I find it astounding that he did so badly and Kerry so well. Seems like the polls indicated the movement happened pretty late and it's unclear to me what either of them did to deserve the results. But if it's the process in Iowa, how come the Zogby poll came so close to the mark?