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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:18 AM
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I've Never Endorsed Dean, But It's Unfair!
It seems unfair that the media, whatever their motivation, could kill a candidate over some manufactured reason. He's not fit to be president because he got excited? That doesn't make sense.
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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:19 AM
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1. He also lost Iowa by a landslide, a state he was supposed to win
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:20 AM
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3. Off topic
:eyes:
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:26 AM
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4. It is not off topic, he DID lose Iowa before the so-called "scream"
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 01:27 AM by LibertyChick
There was no guarantee that any of them would win NH, either.
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cavebat2000 Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:26 AM
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5. He was never "supposed" to win.
Nerf
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:28 AM
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7. What proof do you have?
He was getting good press, he was the frontrunner, and then something happened.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:31 AM
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8. It was either him or Gep people said
Kerry and Edwards showings suprised us all.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:35 AM
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10. What wolrd are you living in I think the "Dean tapes"
can be considered bad press.

Whatever! I am too mad to even type this shit again.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:49 AM
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13. So who made you type it?
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 01:51 AM by LibertyChick
What world am I living in? What "Dean tapes" are you talking about?

Maybe Dr. Dean needs to temper what he says if all these things are going to be used against him?

What world are YOU living in?

It's a media world, and the media loves a spectacle, which Dean handed to them, gift wrapped on a silver platter.

For him to complain now, or in the past, is a bit silly.

He should have known that politics is a dirty business, and behaved accordingly. The Dean campaign loved to stress its use of the Internet-did they not know that that could also be placed on the Internet and repeated zillions of times?

Is there no accountability for what happened to Dean from Dean?

Of course not.



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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:25 AM
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15. The something that happened was the wishes of Iowans
The people of New Hampshire are going to be something also
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:20 AM
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2. don't worry
He was NEVER fit to be president. :-)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:27 AM
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6. Come on, it was a spectacle
Dean did it just like every other thing he has done to himself. Just like he started whining today about "dirty tricks" at the Iowa caucuses. He causes his own problems and there's no "unfair" about it.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:38 AM
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11. I like Dean
I like your guy too. I like all the Dems. Two I like less, but I still like them, I prefer them to the status quo.
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fabius Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:33 AM
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9. In case you hadn't noticed, Dean is still in this race
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 01:34 AM by fabius
We really must expect our candidates to be "Gored" by the press. Good thing IMHO that we've still got 4-5 candidates with reasonable expectations.

I think Dean's come back creditably and handled the thing well. If the voters thing he's been hurt too bad by this thing, they won't vote for him.

If it doesn't matter, they will vote for him. We'll find out. I myself trust the Democratic voters (and independent, where applicable) to pick the strongest candidate to face Bush.

I'm voting for Dean. But I'm not whining about his press treatment (not yet!)

But, if they slam your candidate unfairly, send letters and emails, to these press hounds and hold them accountable!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:38 AM
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12. Any Ballistic Doctor...
is not a welcome spectacle
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:01 AM
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14. since when did politics make sense?
that the process is flawed and unfair is a given . . . that's life in the big city . . .
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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:47 AM
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16. Unfortunate, overblown, yeah. Unfair? hmm...
The Scream speech didn't go over well on tv, I didn't care for the tone. Even if I'd been there in the hall, him taking up all the oxygen like that, I'd have scrambled for the fire exit.
It seemed like a major disconnect there, way too much enthusiasm for such a dreadful disappointment. The mike was on, Governor. The whole country was listening, not just the troops.
It recalls what Nixon said: I gave them a sword.
I hope his candidacy recovers, he deserves better and he has a message to bring to the party that should not be shuffled aside.
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