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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:24 AM
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F**K Frist..... (Schiavo)
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 11:25 AM by wakeme2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/16/politics/16react.html

une 16, 2005
Schiavo Autopsy Renews Debate on G.O.P. Actions
By ANNE E. KORNBLUT

WASHINGTON, June 15 - The autopsy of Terri Schiavo - particularly the findings that she had irreversible brain damage and was blind - left Republicans who had pushed so aggressively for federal intervention struggling on Wednesday to defend their argument that she should have been kept alive.

Senator Mel Martinez, the Florida Republican who pressed the case most, said he has since had second thoughts about Congress's involvement.

..cut.... (And Mel too)



The case has also given Democrats ammunition to use against the Senate majority leader, Bill Frist, a transplant surgeon who, on the Senate floor, voiced his opinion about Ms. Schiavo's condition based on videotapes in which she appears reactive to some stimuli.

Aides to Dr. Frist, a likely presidential candidate in 2008, angrily said he had never made a formal diagnosis and thus had nothing to retract.

..cut..

"I think it will be seen at some point as a turning point in America about what's going on with the Republican Party - namely that you have this fanatical party willing to impose its own views on people, and frankly, powerful enough to do it," said Representative Barney Frank, Democrat of Massachusetts, who was among the most vocal critics of the Schiavo bill. "This is particularly a problem for Dr. Frist. This is a direct refutation of his TV diagnosis." :rofl:

...more at link.......
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:32 AM
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1. Frist knows that his words are influential.
The fact that he never made a formal diagnosis is utterly irrelevant. But, then, his aides know that.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:35 AM
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2. Dr. Asshole isn't getting out of this one!
:rofl:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:38 AM
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3. (screeeeeech)
RETREAT!!!!!!

They can't get out of each other's way fast enough.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:44 AM
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4. from another thread I posted to.
Here is his statement from March 16, 2005
Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), a renowned heart surgeon before becoming Senate majority leader, went to the floor late Thursday night for the second time in 12 hours to argue that Florida doctors had erred in saying Terri Schiavo is in a “persistent vegetative state.”

“I question it based on a review of the video footage which I spent an hour or so looking at last night in my office,” he said in a lengthy speech in which he quoted medical texts and standards. “She certainly seems to respond to visual stimuli.”

Look at that last sentence! Another day, another mistake.


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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:13 PM
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5. the party that does not know personal responsibility
:grr:

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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:30 PM
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6. Frist is a liar
He knows he gave a diagnosis.......his words are record ON HIS WEBSITE!

http://frist.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Speeches.Detail&Speech_id=174&Month=3&Year=2005

"I asked to see all of the court affidavits and I received those court affidavits and had the opportunity to read through those over the last 48 hours. And my curiosity was piqued even further because of what seemed to be unusual about the case. And so I called one of the neurologists who did evaluate her and evaluated her more extensively than what at least was alleged other neurologists had, and he told me very directly that she is not in a persistent vegetative state. And I said, well, give me a spectrum from this neurologist who examined her, and to be fair, he examined her about two years ago, and to the best of my knowledge, no neurologist has been able to examine her -- Im not positive about that but that's what Ive been told -- but at that time that clearly she was not in a persistent vegetative state. And of 100 patients this neurologist would take care of, she wasn't at the extreme end of her disability.

<snip>

Persistent vegetative state, which is what the court has ruled -- I question it. I question it based on a review of the video footage which I spent an hour or so looking at last night in my office here in the Capitol. And that footage, to me, depicts something very different than persistent vegetative state. One of the classic textbooks that we use in medicine today is called "Harrisons Principles of Internal Medicine." In the 16th edition, which was published just this year, 2005, on page 1625, it reads, "the vegetative state signifies an awake but unresponsive state. These patients have emerged from coma after a period of days or weeks to an unresponsive state in which the eyelids are open, giving the appearance of wakefulness." I'll stop quoting from the classic internal medicine textbook, but one last sentence, "in the closely related, minimally conscious state, the patient may make intermittent, rudimentary vocal and motor responses."

So our -- Congress has acted tonight and the House of Representatives acted last night. The approaches are a bit different and I hope that we can resolve those differences. It is clear to me that Congress has a responsibility since other aspects of government at the state level have failed to address this issue. There just seems to be insufficient information to conclude that Terri Schiavo is persistent vegetative state, securing the facts I believe is the first and proper step at this juncture. Whoever does spend time making the diagnosis with Terri does need to spend enough time to make an appropriate diagnosis."

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:33 PM
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7. the Video Doctor has spoken and
what more lies can Frist say....
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:37 PM
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8. The GOP leadership sees an issue, not a person.
They will go to the mat for an embryo in a lab, but God forbid they should ask why millions of people don't have health insurance. They will deliver a bankruptcy "reform" bill that tightens the screws on families with high levels of debt.

But bailing out the airlines is A-OK.

Thousands of people, including many children, die virtually every day due to preventable causes, but we'll never see the House and Senate and Bush rush back to DC to do anything about it.

The simple answer is that doing anything about it would require bipartisanship and reevaluating their spending priorities.

And don't expect them to rush back into session on things like unemployment benefits that are running out. I believe Bush has twice turned a deaf ear to Democratic pleas to arrange a deal to extend unemployment benefits. Once was just before Christmas. Bush went off for his Christmas holiday while families saw their benefits coming to an end. Such compassion. :sarcasm:

To paraphrase the late Mickey Leland's comments about pharmaceutical lobbyists, these are evil violators of mothers.
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