I thought Kerry was going to make DSM an issue

[Broken Acorn]

I feel like he is the invisible man on this issue.

And please don't show me links to the 'raw story' speculation that he is getting signatures in the Senate.

I know Kerry was misquoted a few weeks back about giving a speech, but he definitely was supposed to do some type of action.

What is it?

[confludemocrat]

1. He still supports our staying there so who cares what he does?

It's an academic question.

[Broken Acorn]

3. Kerry might not have supported the war

If he knew the intelligence was fixed; thus the whole point of the DSM!

[confludemocrat]

25. Wha? He has not retracted support for our being there

and has said knowing what we knew back in August 2004 (although not yet then a smoking gun), which was ample evidence of lies, that he would still vote for the war resolution.

[IndianaGreen]

26. As long a Kerry, or anyone else, supports the "don't cut and run" myth

they will remain silent accomplices of Bush's cruel occupation of Iraq.

[Racenut20]

2. Kerry is a total WUSS. Please don't give us another New England

Yankee candidate.

[LittleClarkie]

4. I won't show you a Raw Story article

I will just direct you to the Downing Street Memo site, where there is an action alert to help Sen. Kerry gather as many signatures as possible.

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/takeaction.html

No speculation. That is what he is doing.

As for me, I'm not worried about a dog and pony show. I don't need to see what's going on. There are more ways to deal with an issue than to shoot off one's mouth about it. All we know is that he said he would address the issue and that his office said there would be a speech at some point. Perhaps once he goes public with the letter.

[Broken Acorn]

5. Awesome!

Thanks Clarkie. I hadn't been to that page since it first came out and they updated the Kerry part. That is a good sign for me.

[Dr Fate]

6. I'd like to see the "Big Guns" like Kerry & Dean talk about this on TV.

I think that would be a great way to lend even more exposure to this bombshell.

As it is, Kerry says he is trying to get Senate involvement- I agree with the suggestion that it needs to be more than just a letter to Bush that he wont even read.

[Broken Acorn]

7. You're assuming * knows how to read

He can barely put phrases together to make sentences.

[elizm]

8. Kerry Office says...

THere is no truth to the rumor about his letter....at least I read that from someone who had called the office. So I will believe it when I see it. Conyers stuck his neck out first then asked for support. What...Kerry wants to test the waters first to see if there is support before he sticks his neck out???? Same old Kerry...I won't hold my breath to see if he has the guts to speak out...My guess is NO.

[LittleClarkie]

10. I'll believe the Washington Post if you don't mind

What you've got sounds a bit too secondhand.

[Dr Fate]

12. No offense, but your info is unverified.

n/t

[kerrygoddess]

21. I had an email from his office

Confirming the letter. I guess it's all in who you know.

Kerry's staff is very cautious about giving information. Hell all the Senator's staffers are.

[Bravo411]

9. He also said he was running for President

But he did a piss-poor job of it as well.
Whenever the Republicans attacked him, he seemed to roll over like a scared puppy, then procede to piss oall over himself.

We need Dean on the ticket.

[Dr Fate]

13. I'm not into the Dean vs. Kerry thing- I like them both- but to be fair...

Dean has not said a single word about the memo- while Kerry has.

I'll forgive Kerry for his perceived shortcomings if I see him kick some GOP ass over this memo.

[LittleClarkie]

17. To be fair also

There was some stuff on the DNC website about the Memo. Would that have been Dean's doing?

[Dr Fate]

I partially take it back then. I still want a Dean TV soundbyte.

Swing-voters wont see the DNC website- in fact, none of the DEMs in my office go to it either...

It appears that the "top DEMs" that I've complained so much about are getting it together-I hope.

[Dr Fate]

20. I see nothing about the memo on the DNC website's front page.

Seems like it should be.

Are you talking about the old articles from June 3 & 5?

[LittleClarkie]

23. The blog entry

Looking at it, yeah it was on June 3rd.

Who's responsible for what goes on the blog. That entry was written by Jesse Berney.

http://www.democrats.org/blog/display/00012146.html

[blm]

11. It wasn't RawStory speculation. It was a Washington Post story that Raw

picked up on.

Wouldn't you be more comfortable by reading the whole story including the link to WaPost article?

[Dr Fate]

14. Could it be that Kerry & Reid are working together??? (link)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1860028

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid demanded a full accounting of whether Bolton exaggerated U.S. assessments of several countries' weapons programs, one of the points made by critics of the contentious and long-stalled nomination.

"All over the news the last few days has been concerns about weapons of mass destruction by virtue of the memo that was discovered," the Nevada Democrat said, referring to the so-called "Downing Street memo."

[LittleClarkie]

16. Kerry, Reid, Kennedy, Durbin

Plus some DSM stuff on the DNC website. I think several of them are working together.

I did think I saw Kerry and Reid talking to each other on the Senate floor, and found myself wondering if they were planning stuff. Maybe.

[blm]

30. All we heard was that Kerry was working the Senate urging others to join

him on the letter of inquiry. I would expect he started with Reid since he's the Dem leader.

[Broken Acorn]

15. I wish Dean was spearheading this issue

If we want main-stream traction, Dean is our guy.

He's been getting more press than any other Dem these days and any press is better than no press.


I just wish Kerry would SPEAK OUT about it. It would give us all hope. Btw, Conyers is an ass-kicker.

[Dr Fate]

18. Dean did offer the use of DNC rooms- but I agree- he needs to go on TV.

The press seems to like to repeat his quotes- perhaps today would be a great time for him to utter one his patented "controversial" statements.

[Jacobin]

19. Don't hold your breath.

He's one of those 'see which way the wind is blowing' guys.

It's what screwed him up on IWR vote

[blm]

29. At the hearing today Bonifaz is USING the IWR against Bush for impeachable

offense.

Just as I've been saying for a long time here. IWR stipulated that Bush had to make the determination for war AFTER he took proper measures to avoid war, especially weapons inspections.

Bush did not. In fact, the Rove media SPUN the IWR into congress giving Bush a blank check to do what he pleased.

The dumbest move from the left was to parrot those IWR talking points from Rove. The IWR should have been the reason to BLAME Bush all along, instead of the way it evolved into a blame Dems for voting for war.

Bonifaz said today the OFFICIAL document from Bush that was sent to Congress - AS DIRECTED BY THE IWR GUIDELINES - saying he determined Iraq to be a threat to national security after the weapons inspections just happens to be an impeachable offense as a FALSE STATEMENT in an official document. The DSM and the cooking of the intel proves the false statement was made knowingly.

The IWR would have prevented war if adhered to honestly. Too bad so many chose to ignore that fact in favor of adopting the Rovemedia spin that the IWR gave Bush all the support he needed to go to war.

I hope everyone LISTENS to Bonifaz closely at the rerun of the hearing.

[Jacobin]

31. Anyone paying attention at the time

KNEW to a moral certainty that Bush used the IWR as a profilactic to authorize his warmongering.

How voting to give Smirk the authority to go to war (without further congressional oversight) is somehow construed as helping to prevent the war is quite a mind twister.

But, be my guest.

[blm]

33. Tell it to Bonifaz. Bush had to adhere to the IWR. He didn't. He wrote an

official document as per the IWR and he LIED. Under the False Statement Act, that's an impeachable offense.

If you have difficulty comprehending the guidelines in the IWR that Bush was supposed to follow, then that's your problem.

The point is that Bonifaz' testimony today PROVES how dumb it was of so many on the left to waste time attacking and blaming the IWR and those who voted for it, instead of blaimng ONLY BUSH for not implementing the guidelines of the IWR honestly.

Thankfully, Bonifaz knows what you refuse to consider and HE is making the case and not you.

[politicasista]

34. Go blm!

:yourock:

[dalloway]

22. Remember, impeachment starts in the House....gotta

build momentum there first. The Senate will come next, I am sure.

[mandyky]

24. He wasn't gonna concede either

Par for the course for Sen Kerry

[LittleClarkie]

27. I don't remember him saying that

God knows we can't go through every election litigating and never conceding ever. Without hard, take-it-to-court facts about fraud, there was going to be very little he could do.

What exactly were you looking for in the way of action.

He promised to make sure every vote got counted. And he is. He has no earthly reason to still be involved in litigation in Ohio. But he is. When he spoke out against suppression of the black vote, he got slapped down. He's co-sponsor of election reform legislation, but few remember that either.

Par for the course for Kerry is fighting for people who could give a shit about him. That includes many veterans, and some here I reckon. He's STILL opening his mouth for the BCCI folks who lost their money when that bank closed. And THEY can't even vote for the man.

[mandyky]

32. No, Edwards said count all the votes

Kerry had our backs.

Hopefully he will get that election reform bill passed.

You need to visit election2004 forum - there is evidence and quite a bit of it - coming out.

[confludemocrat]

28. Kerry and other Dems are out on a limb that they are busy sawing off

The official position of Kerry and many other biggie Demos is that (an opinion held by 10% (!) of the population) we need more troops in Iraq. So get real here.