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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:52 PM
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Bolton likely to get a recess appointment
Novakula on Inside Politics today said the Republicans have given up trying to break a Democratic filibuster on Bolton. He said that means Bolton will likely get a recess appointment.

That means he goes to the UN without a vote.

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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:56 PM
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1. Bastards!
Whores!
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:01 PM
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2. Here's a recess joke.
* is at a school answering questions from kids. One gets up and says, "My name is Tommy, and I want to know why you are President if Mr. Gore got more votes than you did and why didn't we find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?" Just then the recess bell rings and the kids go outside.

When they come back in a kid gets up and says "My name is Billy, and I want to know why you are President if Mr. Gore got more votes than you did, why didn't we find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, why did we have recess twenty minutes early and where the hell is Tommy?"
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:05 PM
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4. Good joke... Did you hear that on * last trip to Europe a group of teens
got a chance to ask unscripted questions? One said that she had received an appeal letter asking her to donate money to a US charity because children in the US were going hungry. She asked * if it was true. The rest of the 'discussion' was not transcribed. (Sorry, no link).

:grr:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:03 PM
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3. Is there anything that can be done about this?
I was becoming hopeful that Bolton would fall. If he is appointed we can expect war in Iran and North Korea in pretty short order...

:grr: :cry: :grr: :cry: :grr: :cry:
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:13 PM
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5. Nope.
Can't do a damn thing. It's in the Constitution:

"The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the end of their next Session"

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:32 PM
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7. When is the Senate considered Recessed?
What is the end of the next Session - this year? next year?

"...the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the end of their next Session."

:wtf:
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:43 PM
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8. They recess the entire month of August
And after Sept. 30.

Here is the National Review gloating about how they will get their way:

If the White House acts now, it can argue that Bolton had majority support in the Senate, but was blocked by filibustering Democrats. With a recess appointment, Bolton can serve through end of the Senate session in 2006, and there is no reason that he can't be confirmed by the Senate at a later date. The non-scandals of the last few weeks will fade, and the case against Bolton will weaken as he performs — as we have every reason to believe he will — effectively at the world body.

The games over this nomination have stretched on too long already. It’s time to give Turtle Bay the medicine it deserves, U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton.

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:07 PM
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9. Thanks for your reply. Mike Malloy is on -
I am in need of catharsis.

:kick:
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:17 PM
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6. he will arrive at the UN with a sign around his neck that reads...
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 08:18 PM by xray s

SHAME

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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:15 PM
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10. He probably will BUT I read it to mean if a vacany occurs during a recess,
the President shall have the power to fill it during the recess. Say, for instance, a cabinet secretary should die during a recess, the president shall appoint someone during the recess. I do not think it was intended to allow the President to circumvent the Advise and Consent powers of the Senate over a stalled nominee. But hey, when has the actual Constitution stopped this crooked, America-hating administration.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:30 PM
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11. It wasn't intended that way
but it has evolved into that.

Clinton used it, too. In fact, Republican Sen. James Inhofe condemned it as un-American when Clinton did it. Supposed any Republicans will condemn this use of it?

BTW, Bush had appointed Bill Pryor to the 11th Circuit as a recess apointment.

And Earl Warren, William Brennan and Thurgood Marshall were all recess appointments initially.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:37 PM
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12. Sen Roberts has opened the door far & wide for futher Bolton investigation
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:43 PM
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13. If Bolton was still being investigated, I don't believe, Bush can seat
Bolton during Congress and Senate recess. I maybe wrong on this.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:47 PM
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14. The only problem I have here is that the Democrats have not
used the filibuster yet, only asked for some documents upon the consideration of John Bolton to the UN.

The Bush Jr. Administration is playing out their hand hopefully on this bash to the world.
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