What are you thoughts on Biden running for president? Can you support him?

[CalebHayes]

http://www.kyw1060.com/news_story_detail.cfm?newsitemid=47139

He is running. He just might get the nod, could you support him? Who would you rather see? Pro and cons, lets hear them.

[longship]

1. Only if he gets the nomination,

and then only relunctantly.

[Rick Myers]

6. Same here...

But it's really too early for me to get engaged with a specific candidate.

[DrBlix]

11. NO

NO

[CalebHayes]

21. If your gonna be that way you gotta tell us why.

[longship]

35. Here's my reason

Because Biden could never win the presidency.

[acmejack]

12. If nominated I will support

But I will work like hell for an acceptable progressive alternative who more closely aligns with my vision of the future. Biden (aka Senator MBNA) is not someone I will be comfortable with, I prefer not to have a DLC person as our nominee. And he is included in the list of the dirty 19.

[oldtime dfl_er]

30. Exactly

And he has way too much baggage. He'd lose in a landslide. I just think he's just the kind of overly-compromised politician that Karl Rove would love to go up against.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/665903

[mahina]

40. Exactly too!

The 19 should never ever have a shot. He is compromised, and I just don't think he has the courage to stand up to the badguys. Proven.

[warbly]

44. Biden- D (MBNA)

that is it. I'll vote aginst him in the primaries because of his vote for and defense of that evil bankruptcy bill.

[AndreaCG]

38. Agreed

Can't afford to go 3rd party unfortunately.

[Clark2008]

2. Better than Hillary, but still a senator from the Northeast.

*sigh*

[Radical Activist]

3. Biden is manic-impressive.

Very impressive one week, terrible the next. Sometimes I want to cheer for him and other times he makes me almost lose my lunch. I sincerely hope we can find someone better than Biden.

[CalebHayes]

22. I see what your saying, I've noticed that in him.

[BayouBengal07]

4. Depends.

If he gets the nomination, I'll vote for him. Biden vs. Frist/Santorum? Who would YOU vote for?

I'd prefer Clark. Southern, not TOO moderate, quick on his feet, and the military credentials.

[wyldwolf]

5. Biden isn't my first or second choice now, but yes...

I will support him if he gets the nomination.

I would never join the chorus of pretend Democrats who threaten to vote third party if their vanity candidate isn't the nominee.

[Pepperbelly]

7. only one way Big-Bidness Biden gets my vote ...

If he happens to somehow gank the nomination.

[liveoaktx]

8. I really, really don't like him

I saw him handling Alberto the Torture Stooge Gonzales.. and then vote for him. I won't vote for him, even if he is the candidate.

[countmyvote4real]

9. No way. He should not get the nom from the Dems.

He should start the MBNA Bankruptcy Party. That's who he represents. It's certainly not we the people.

[Adelante]

10. Anybody who gets the nomination

But I am hoping that person is Wesley Clark.

[Raster]

13. absolutely NOT!!! I'm sorry, Sen. Hair Club for Men does not get my vote.

First of all, he voted FOR the bankruptcy bill. The bill was WRITTEN by MBNA. Literally. biden has his nose so far up the money boys butt, if they make a hard right he's gonna need to see a doctor. Second, his criticizm of Howard Dean. I guess biden likes being a charter member of the spinless dems club. I am sick-to-fucking-death of spineless dems. They are part of the reason we are in the mess we are now. It's time to stop appeasing and start standing up for what we believe, what we know is right. The numbers don't lie. The majority of the American people feel the same way we do. They believe in reproductive choice. They believe personal decisions should be just that, PERSONAL. The majority of people do NOT, repeat NOT, believe that two gay men having a civil union is going to bring the end of civilization as we know it. They are VERY, VERY concerned about IRAQ and the cluster-fuck it has been since day one. Oh, 'scuze me, ONE YEAR BEFORE DAY ONE!!! Back to the original question, No, I would not support biden. He's a professional politician. We've had way too many of them--OF BOTH PARTIES--for my taste. He's part of the system now. I want reformers. I want leaders who are as little tainted by the system as possible.

On edit: I would support him ONLY if he somehow got the nomination. I would support, but be very dissapointed that more qualified candidates did not get the nod.

[femme.democratique]

19. His problem isn't that he is "spineless" - he belongs to the wrong party.

Biden is really just a moderate Republican and he shafts the country (like Lieberman) for not joining the party that is closer to his actual belief system. So, he's not spineless, he's just a hypocritical prick.

[Robbien]

14. No. I will not support him

If our country is going to be led into ruin by a big business conservative I would much rather that big business conservative be from the other party.

[femme.democratique]

15. He's just as much a liar as Bush - no way would I support him

Beyond that, MBNA has their hands so far down his pockets it makes me want to puke. Granted, I don't believe there will actually BE an election in 2008, so the point is moot. However, he already had to drop out of one Presidential race because he plagiarized - does he think people forget these things so easily?

[utahgirl]

16. NO!

I can't stand him. Mealy mouthed and inching.

utahgirl

[Burried News]

17. He'd have to shave his head first, he's a conceited prig.

I have had enough air head arrogance for awhile - and lets not even go into the truthfulness factor or the smile while he knifes you in the back. Other than that ...

[Joey Liberal]

18. Not sold on Biden......... n/t

[meg]

20. I'd treat his run with all of the respect he gave Anita Hill

and with as much loyalty as he has given grassroots Democrats

[MasonJar]

23. Not in the primaries, but if he wins, of course.

[Blue_In_AK]

24. It'd be hard...he's so smarmy....

I'd take him over any Republican, though.

[Presidentcokedupfratboy]

25. He supported the bankruptcy bill

AKA the "Credit Card Company Welfare Act." I know, he's from Delaware, which is home to many banks, but Biden should have known better. Most people don't declare bankruptcy because they spend too much on vacations and luxuries; they usually have lost a job, gone through a divorce, or had a medical expense they can't pay for.

That vote has made me think long and hard about voting for him.

Having said that, I would vote for him if he is the Democratic nominee. Look at the alternative.

[DebJ]

26. why bother? the banks are already controlling Amerika.

[tsuki]

27. No. No chickenhawks.

[G2099]

28. No

[Kokonoe]

29. Spineless,spineless,spineless and spineless from way back.

He might well be a republican, but knows just enough democratic lingo to keep getting elected.

[Joacheme Misrahe]

31. Have to wonder

if bushco promised him they would rig him an election if he helped push the agenda.

[FrenchieCat]

32. I would not work to elect him....

because he would only lose.

The man is a phony....and those vibes are really very evident.

[jen4clark]

33. That's so hard

I would be sorely tempted to go back to my old attitude of "why should I play their game as if anything I did made a difference..."

otoh, if the option is really really evil vs. fairly evil I suppose I'll vote for fairly evil and continue trying to change things from the bottom up.

[election_2004]

34. I would vote for him in a General Election....

...which I CANNOT say the same for Hillary.

However, I would not support or vote for Biden in the primaries, mainly because of his recent comments on the draft.

[kodi]

36. back biden? let me check the weather channel, no, hell hasn't frozen over

i'll go back to working for the natural law party before i support biden.

[Imagevision]

37. Biden is self serving - end of story!

[Darkamber]

39. I will support him and he's better then Hillary...

He's much more to the center and he has a way of speaking that makes his point without pissing people off the other side. He can move to the middle and he knows Foreign relations. Perhaps he has a love/hate relationship with some of the party core like McCain has with the Repubs, but I bet the GOP leaders who are dreaming of Hillary running are much more worried about Biden running then Hillary.

However, even though I like him in many matters, we are slitting our wrists if we nominated ANY Senator from the NE...no matter how moderate or conservative they are. And that includes Hillary.

We really need to look to the South and to a governor or at least not to an active Senator with a recent voting records to be plastered all over.

[EndElectoral]

41. No..I'd vote Green first.

[Pithy Cherub]

42. No, and on any subsequent thoughts: NO!!!!

Senator Biden, D-MBNA has as much political steadfastness as a wet sponge under a torrent of water. His balance sheet is more liabilities than assets. Neither my time, money or energy would be used on his behalf.

[LSdemocrat]

43. I'm guessing he'll do worse in 2008 than Lieberman did in 2004

[bunny planet]

45. If he gets the nomination I will hold my nose and vote for him but I sure

hope he's not our candidate. I really don't like his record at all.

[Donna Zen]

46. If the Democrats want us to be unified

then they need to elect a unifying candidate. We did all we could in 2004 without question. 95% of the delegates to the convention were against the war and although many of us had great reservations about the ticket, we searched and found common ground. Now the party thinks that they can do the same again.

Well, maybe the time has come to quit digging the hole.

If you are tired of politics as usual, if the vote on critical issues leaves you scratching your head, if you wonder why the party doesn't seem to listen, just look at the way you vote.

Hold them accountable for their actions and they will understand that you mean it.

Joe Biden is probably a very nice person but he has stabbed the ordinary citizen in the back one too many times.

[lastknowngood]

47. If he is running as a repug he should do well

n/t

[bonzotex]

48. I'll vote for whoever heads the Dem ticket...

But Biden would make me feel dirty doing it. Others have said it all here. Overly-compromised, talks a good game then weak when it counts. He should stay a Senator and try to be a stronger Democrat in that venue.