Durbin Issue

[Jane Austin]

How come it's worse to describe, however clumsily, what goes on at Guantanamo Bay than it is to DO what's described?

All the Sunday talk shows were full of how bad Sen. Durbin is to draw a comparison to bad regimes of the past, but little time was spent on the bad stuff we perptrating on our prisoners there.

Which is worse? Ill-chosen words or leaving someone chained in their own feces and urine for days at a time?

[Kagemusha]

1. But it's being done to bad people.

So says Beam-me-up-Scotty McLellan.

[Bluzmann57]

2. Durbin maybe should have phrased it a bit differently

but his point was correct. And one would think that being tortured is worse than actually talking about it, but what do I know? I'm just a dumb ass Un-American Liberal. :sarcasm:

[alcuno]

3. Durbin's my senator and I support him. But.....

he put himself in the way of bad news for the administration and they latched onto it. Washington will always cover the party conflict before the policy conflict. A political mistake.

[snippy]

4. Why were republicans not upset when Rove compared Bush and his

supporters to Nazis? Was it because Rove compared Bush to Hitler in an admiring and complimentary way? Evidently.

[Disturbed]

6. Framing the issue.

Durbin screwed up in how he framed it. Not that his concept is false. He should have known that the Rethugs and even Dems would twist what he meant and make that the issue instead of the "actual" issue of TORTURE!

[Qanisqineq]

5. It gives the republicans something to talk about instead of DSM

just like Reid said the other day on the Senate floor when Durbin was being chastised for using the term Nazis. Reid said it is the right-wing noise machine. They want to talk about everything but what really matters.

[Burried News]

7. Dems Need to Go After Senator Warner for not doing his job.

Warner is the chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee. He dropped the Taguba report when it got too hot (Around Thanksgiving as I recollect). He promised to get back to it and never has. If someone like Durbin doesn't raise a hubub what or who stops prisoner abuse - Rumsfeld?
http://buffaloreport.com/2004/040511.jackson.dumb.html
Excerpt:
Bruce Jackson

Maybe the Dumbest US Senator of them All

On Tuesday, May 11, the Senate Armed Services Committee heard testimony from Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba, whose report documents American atrocities and administrative failures of various kinds at Abu Ghraib prison; Stephen A. Cambone, the Defense Department undersecretary for intelligence, who worked very hard to keep from letting any responsibility for anything land anywhere; and Air Force Lt. Gen. Lance L. Smith, the deputy commander of the U.S. Central Command, who looked the entire time as if he desperately wished he were anywhere else but where he was. The subject was torture, responsibility and accountability.

Some of the senators asked questions that elicited interesting and useful answers from the witnesses. An equal number asked questions articulating or staking out political positions regarding the Bush administration’s war in and occupation of Iraq. A few talked so long there was no time for any of the witnesses to respond. END

[Catrina]

8. That's torture, not important

Why are the Democrats not screaming about the Majority Leader, Frist, calling the Democratic Party, Nazis? Just because they won't vote the way he wants to?

Durbin should say that when Frist apologizes for that remark (do the Dems have a torture chamber somewhere?) he will consider doing the same ~ I can't stand how the media always attacks Dems, but lets the Republicans off the hook.

Let's start screaming about Frist's remark ~ it is surely inappropriate and hurtful to American to characterize half the government as Nazis?