If Kerry or Edwards is the nominee

[Darth_Ole]

I don't see how we can go hard on Bush about the war. They voted for it and supported it. The best they can do is say that he hasn't handled the peace well. But they can't say this was a bad war.

And Edwards can't say the Patriot Act is chipping away at our liberties. He was one of the authors of the bill!

I like all the candidates (excepting Lieberman) and would support any of them. But does anyone else think it would be hard to oppose Bush's war if certain people are nominated?

[adamrsilva]

1. DK said this at the dinner last night

"What do they have to debate with Bush?"

[AP]

2. Edwards didn't author any part of the PA. Elizabeth Edwards blogged about

this lie.

[leyton]

11. It's a shame this keeps coming up.

I mean, this Edwards writing the patriot act thing comes up in about every thread. I think even if Skinner pinned a correction at the top of the forum (like he did the GDP2004 rules) people would still be posting this.

[chimpymustgo]

3. We will take the White House. Edwards. Kerry. Fantastic.

These issues are much more complex than you make them. But the American people understand. Check out Edwards on C-SPAN now. You'll see why he WILL win.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

4. Of course they can

They can cite the numerous lies that were told to drag us into this war. They can cite the NUMEROUS opinions on many many security experts (republicans included) concerning the COSTS of the war and they can cite the numerous miltary experts (again, Republicans included) on the actual execution of the war. They can cite DECADES of studies and scholars including people from Poppy's administration on why this war has turned out so poorly and so unpredictable and they can cite the closed door meetings in which security contracts were not vetted by congress to pay back big time donors.

[cindyw]

5. Anyone who doubts this should hve seen Face the Nation &

Fox News this morning.

1. Bush, Cheney and the CIA presented false information to the Congress.

Only Dems who don't like Kerry and Edwards make the argument that they knew it was lies and they didn't. What will Bush say? Will he even try to claim that he didn't know it was lies? If he even dared to say to Kerry that he voted to support him, Kerry can reply, "you lied to me". I think that will do just fine. Everyone here, even Dean supporters, shout that Bush lied, but somehow we cannot allow Kerry to say this.

[DU9598]

6. Not about the war to most of America

I don't think we would really want a candidate in the general election to have to argue about the war. Even in Iowa, most of caucus goers (party faithful) were not anti-war. In my opinion, having an anti-war candidate is a recipe for a big loss in November. I think Kerry and Edwards are the two best chances to deliver for Democrats in November.

[JI7]

7. most were anti war, but kerry won the anti war vote

i believe edwards got more anti war voters than dean also.

[Frances]

8. One word: Jobs

I was against the war 150%. And I think we could make a lot of arguements about it, but I don't think the war will be the big issue in November.

I think the big issue will be jobs: how many, what they pay, what benefits they offer, and if they are about to moved overseas.

I think the airways will be filled with ads about how Bush's tax cuts took us out of the bad economy he inherited (absolute lies, but there you are).

That's why I think the Democratic candidates should make good use of all of the free publicity they are getting now. They should all be hammering Bush on the economy. At least one of them should do the old Ross Perot thing and show charts that depict job growth under Clinton and job loss under Bush. They should show charts revealing surplus and deficit growth under Clinton and Bush. They should show these over and over and over just to combat the lies Bush will tell.

[DjTj]

9. That's what most Americans believe...

...that Saddam Hussein was evil and that it's a good thing that he's gone, but that we should have gotten more international support and that there should have been more of a plan in place for after the war.

John Edwards also knows a thing or two about civil liberties and the responsibility of being an attorney, and he can say a lot about what John Ashcroft is doing wrong.

[lastknowngood]

10. the war is not an issue with most

people with the hiding of the coffins and the fake casualty figures and the media covering anything else most people don't know s--t.