Rove insulted US - this is war!

[jillan]

If he wants this country divided, he's got it.
His comments made me hate the republicans even more, and I never would have thought that was possible.

If he apologizes - fuck him! They are still attacking Durbin after his apology.

How dare him insult Democrats, when he has democrats blood all over his hands.

I say we start a massive email campaign to all of the dem senators saying how insulted we are, and to start a "shock and awe" campaign on the republicans.... and it starts with non-stop discussion of the DSM, that has suddenly disappeared.

Kerry was awesome on the floor today, but that was just the first bullet.

I am pissed - ARE YOU????

[liberaliraqvet26]

1. As a lifelong New Yorker....

and an Iraq war veteran I think I know a little more than his cherub ass.

[Catrina]

28. Thank you for your service

I am in NY also ~ Karl Rove just said that you are terrorist appeaser, he also accused my nephew, airforce veteran, of wanting to appease terrorists. He insulted and trashed the memory of all those Democrats who served and even died for their country.

This is war!! I've listened to this 'liberals are traitors' for years now, with virtually NO response from Demcorats. I'm sick and tired of it and the only reason it's still going on is because Democrats have refused to take them on.

Let's finish it once and for all. Most Americans are not on their side, they've just been screaming longer and louder.

Karl Rove speaks for the president. Bush needs to apologize and he and he needs to fire Karl Rove. His father, Bush Sr. fired him back in the early nineties. Nothing else will do. And then let the prosecutors on the Valerie Plame case start prosecuting.

Bush promised quick action on the traitor who outed an undercover agent. That was TWO WHOLE YEARS AGO!

Oh, and Karl, 'where is Osama Bin Laden'?

[liberaliraqvet26]

30. they really think they own the flag...

well this kinda talk is not going to work on the public much longer.

[Linette]

42. If this is war...

...then you need to know your enemy.

From James Kroeger's http://taxwisdom.org/republican_nemesis.htm">The Republican Nemesis:

"Republican strategists know they would rarely win if election results were always determined by a logical discussion of The Issues and nothing more (they know that most voters would benefit more from Democratic economic policies than from Republican policies). They know they must win the IMAGE CAMPAIGN to have any chance of winning. That is why they are committed, now and forever, to negative campaigning. Republicans have never forgotten a key stratagem they perfected during the Reagan Era: DEMONIZING YOUR OPPONENTS WORKS."

"The most important reason why negative campaigning has worked so well for the Republicans is because their negative attacks on the Democrats reate a positive impression of Republican candidates, who appear---in contrast---to be individuals who do not possess the defects that they have accused others of having. They define themselves by defining their Democratic opponents . On a visceral level, what the Republicans actually “stand for” in the minds of Swing Voters on election day is that they are not Democrats---those defective people who seem to have been born to ruin everything..."

http://taxwisdom.org/republican_nemesis.htm">The Republican Nemesis really is must-reading for any Democrat. We can take on Rove and the Republicans, but we're going to have to work together to bring them down.

Linette

[Cha]

70. Thanks for this link, Linette

Looks like a great one.

[northernsoul]

31. Tip of the cap to you, liberaliraqvet26

Rove basically just said that your service and sacrafice don't mean jackshit to him. I hope you get a chance to meet Turdblossom himself in person some day.

[liberaliraqvet26]

44. i dont want to meet him....

he is the scum of the earth.

[bribri16]

36. Rove says that to cover the fact that Republicans were in charge on 9/11

The shit happened on THEIR conservative, hawkish watch.
And we all know Bush LIED to get us into war with Iraq and Cheney is STILL LYING.
Their MO is to attack, attack, attack and maybe no one will notice what the truth is.

[liberaliraqvet26]

45. they are only hawks when it suits them...

to catch osama or stop a genocide they are not hawks,,, to steal oil or protect the "great" israel then they are hawks

[rockymountaindem]

41. Hats off, friend.

It's good to have you and people like you on our side.

[Skittles]

43. that slimy little chickenhawk Rove makes me SICK

Susan
Air Force Veteran

[GainesT1958]

2. Whoever does the Saturday response to Dub's radio address...

Needs to start out by asking: "Why does Karl Rove hate America?":mad:

B-)

[Kikosexy2]

3. Exactly ...

what I say...attack, attack, attack and attack the news medias also. It's time to fight back and hard!

[CAcyclist]

4. I'm pissed.

Don't forget LTTEs. Those help ,too.

My LTTE to the SF Chron:

Dear Editor,

Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war with Iraq, an innocent country which had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments on Saudi Arabians and the Bin Laden family but the Republicans said "No".

Where's Osama bin Laden, Rove? Why isn't he in custody?

[samsingh]

5. i very pissed at Rove

and offended that he would use 911 as a political statement.

he must resign for the good of the country.

[Avalux]

6. I've BEEN pissed -

and I'd like to thank Karl Rove for giving the Democrats a priceless gift. He's gone too far and it's time for us to use it.

[Lorien]

7. Hell yes!

I'm going to bombard the MSM and my reps with E-mail and letters this weekend. Enough is enough! And if you haven't already; join the boycott against those that fund BushCo:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=255

[Tamarin]

8. I'm pissed

Mr. President, have you no decency - Fire Karl Rove! He just called half of the country unpatriotic, is that being a uniter?

[whistle]

9. Kerry said something about KKKarl Rove today......

....do you have a video link. Hillary Clinton nailed Donald Rumsfeld in the Senate Armed Forces Committee hearing today about this and Rumsfeld denied knowing anything about it and also said he did not say it, when asked by Hillary if he knew who said it. Then Rumsfeld gave a sneer and said nothing else. It is war! I fully agree, the democrats must take off the gloves and do major battle with these thugs who are controlling the political agenda and destroying the constitutional democracy of the United States.

[Beaver Tail]

12. And this is what they are doing

Turning the Opposition into the Enemy

[zann725]

54. Byrd kicked Rummy's "butt" today too.

He kept asking over and over questions he says he's asked before, but are still unanswered. He also referred to Rummy's smirk. Go Byrd! He just wouldn't "let go."

[Fire Walk With Me]

10. We are spinning wheels and burning energy... Choose the right battle...

Spend time bringing up awareness of DSM etc.

These people use up our energy and time with charged rhetoric, and laugh while they get away with torture, etc.

[ibegurpard]

14. This is NOT an unimportant issue.

They misconstrue and outright lie about statements and actions in order to discredit effective leaders on our side. It has to stop NOW and turning it back on them is one way to start doing that.

[Fire Walk With Me]

32. They probably have a "department" to start battles like this

It would be optimum if a number of us were to spend our time taking them to appropriate task for the lies and misconduct, while others specifically take on DSM etc.

They're organized like this, why not our response? Divide and conquer can be conquered.

[ibegurpard]

33. Are you not seeing an ORGANIZED response to this?

Read the boards. I certainly am.

[Fire Walk With Me]

53. Thankfully, if they keep our ire up, we can use it against them

And yes, I see board-level organization, but these people, such as Newt and especially the Bush family, have been planning this for a couple of decades.

[Fire Walk With Me]

56. This is one of the things they're counting upon this Distraction for:

Investigators from the United Nations have accused the US of stalling over their repeated requests to visit detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

The UN says it has evidence that torture has taken at the prison amid reports that 520 inmates have had mental breakdowns.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4123200.stm

We should be hammering at this. Over and over and over.

[OneTwentyoNine]

17. Uhh....right now I'll take THIS battle....

BS on this pick and choose crap,I'm tired of the insults from those fucks about Dems. It's way past time to take a stand,do it now or don't ever do it....

[flakey_foont]

11. Rove, Limbaugh, Hannity

and the rest of the starting lineup of douchebags circulate that meme in the public consciousness - i.e, Repubs prepared for war, blah, blah, blah...; it's bullshit to us here, but to Joe Sixpack, sitting in front of the tube watching Faux Snooze,, that's exactly what he wants to hear- it fits nicely into his "all who oppose Bush hate Amurka" frame; Rove was only speaking to those in that karass

[Tamarin]

19. Mr. Hannity,

I would like to hear you condemn karl Rove's remarks. Will you now disavow his remarks? Is Karl Rove a uniter? How can the republican party defend Rove's vicious attack on the American people. Will you stand with us now and refuse to condone this type of behavior? (I don't if we have an irony smilie)

[laugle]

66. I say it's time for

an all out DIRECT assault on those three stooges you just named. We should send plenty of nasty e-mails to all of them, if only to give them a taste of their own medicine. They have been getting away with too much too longggggggggggg!!!

[rniel]

13. What gets me is

There's soldiers over their doing their job and are put in harms way and a lot of them are democrats and voted for kerry.

He's trying to undermine their sacrifice. Like they are traitors to the usa because of political affiliation. It's disguisting.

[CarefullyLiberal]

15. If you wouldn't mind...

pirhana,

Would you mind posting a link or quote of what Rove said?

It's difficult for me to get my panties in a wad if I don't what the President's horse whisperer said.

Thanks,

-Fergus

[jillan]

22. read here

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050623/ap_on_re_us/rove_sept_11

and here is Kerry's speech

http://dembloggers.com/

[MinnesotaMike31]

16. I'm pissed... who should I email first????????????

[Lorien]

38. Your reps

followed by local and National media!

[jillan]

18. I'm starting right here . . . with Dean

http://www.democrats.org/blog/contact/index.html

[knowbody0]

20. easy to use his words against him

the republicans saw 911 and prepared for war ANY WAR AGAINST ANY NATION WITH NO CONNECTION TO THE TOWERS. LIED TO AMERICA, KILLED INNOCENT CIVILIANS,

What is wrong with asking why we were attacked?

[Bluerthanblue]

21. he lied, not only insulted us

and to be quite honest-
the man needs therapy- very badly-

did you know he found out that his father was not his father at a dinner where his Aunt and Uncle let it slip? and that his mother committed suicide?

He one angry man- with what my son would say "alot of issues"-

[reality based]

23. This was not just Rove

It has the blessings of the White House. * doesn't want to be President of the entire country. Democratic Senators and Congressmen should challenge their Republican colleagues to decide where they stand-- with America or just the Republican Party.

[Canuckistanian]

24. [phone] - Karl Rove's Phone Number

Let this public servant know what the people think of him.

[jillan]

27. where did you get this??

:evilgrin: :toast:

[Canuckistanian]

34. AmericaBlog

http://americablog.org/

[laugle]

68. I called late last night, just for curiousity,

I got spooked when a woman answered and said "the White House". I said wrong number. LOL. I guess I have my limits, I was a chicken I admit it. Those bastards would sick the IRS on you or take your fricking house. Did anyone else call? Did you get replys on that?

[kentuck]

25. I am not a crook.... R. Nixon

:)

[proud patriot]

26. Rove is so full of shit when he cries brown tears I won't be suprised

x(

[Geek_Girl]

29. Counter the Rovian Spin

Start writing LTE's pointing out Roves BS to counter the evil one's manipulation. Unfortunately most people buy into to this crap and it's whats keeping these ass hats in power. If we can counter this "Dems are weak on defense and undermine national security BS" in the court of public opinion then we may actually have a chance of defeating them in '06 and '08.

Start a letter writing campaign and counter these Rovian tactics!

[Adelante]

35. Wes Clark blogs on this

Democrats everywhere are bemoaning the preposterous and inflammatory remarks Karl Rove is accused of saying in response to the Senator Durbin's remarks on Guantanamo Bay:

"Has there ever been a more revealing moment this year? Let me just put this in fairly simple terms: Al Jazeera now broadcasts the words of Senator Durbin to the Mideast, certainly putting our troops in greater danger. No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals...Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers." --Karl Rove

I am so saddened by this untrue, unfair, unwise statement made by President Bush's closest advisor. I hope you will express your sadness directly to the highest authority.

Wes Clark

http://wes-clark.forclark.com/story/2005/6/23/18858/3813#9

We're organizing letter-writing and petition campaigns to call them out on this bullshit.

[HR_Pufnstuf]

37. 3 Words to Karly

"WHERE IS OSAMA?"

[zulchzulu]

39. My gloves have been off for a while

Noose tying is a fun little summer project.

[Blue Belle]

40. I'm very pissed.

when I read, "liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers." I was fuming.

Excuse me... but wasn't it Bu$hCo who were shuttling Osama Bin Laden's Family members out of this country (even though our air space was on lock down) on September 12th?? Isn't that a HUGE example of going out of your way to provide "Therapy and Understanding" to our attackers?? Fucking hypocritical liars. How dare you slander us when your poster boy doesn't sneeze without The Saudi's permission.

[Joey Liberal]

46. FUCK YOU KARL ROVE!

The statements made by Karl "Marx" Rove are bullshit, Nazi-like and fucking rightwing nonsense.

[wisteria]

47. I got angry as soon as I read the comments.

They are still trying to use 9/11 to promote a war and an agenda. Rove's remarks were over the top. How dare he make references to us being complacent with the terrorists and trying to assist them in getting in touch with their feelings. Macho vs Pansy. We're tough, their not crap. Yeah, I'm mad, I think we need to keep this going for as long as we can.

[Geek_Girl]

48. I got pissed off enough to write an LTE

Dear Editor
Recent remarks by Karl Rove, Bush’s closet political adviser and Deputy Chief of staff, insinuate that liberals put American troops in harms way. Fixing the facts around a policy, and manipulating the American public to support a war based on lies, puts our brave young men and women in harms way!

I'm not sure I can stomach the hate mail, but some things are worth fighting.

[jillan]

50. yeah!!!

My paper has a call in column. That's what I'm going to do.

I will say something like
How dare Rove insult the democrats that are fighting in Iraq, and the democrats that have been killed there. Rove has gone too far in his comments this time. An apology will not be enough.

[mrdmk]

49. Analyze this Mr. Rove

Mr. Bush Jr.'s poll numbers were in the toilet 9/10/01 ( the same as they are now), then came 9/11/01. Conclusion, as a group the Bush Jr. Administration are really not that good. MIHOP or LIHOP or just plain screwed up, 9/11/01 is a BS wave you can only ride so far.

Lets just say for a moment that the World Trade Center was attack by people who were pissed at the United States of America. This attack did not happen over night. It happened with a lot of planning and a lot of revenge in the hearts of these people. Maybe, ever since the walk softly and carry a big stick policy came out and pointed us to take our rightful place in the world we have been doing just that, taking our place in the world. That carries a lot of responsibility and factually the Bush Jr. Administration blew it badly. Just ask the 3000+ dead from 9/11/01 what the Bush Jr. Administration did for them, be sure to listen to their collective response.

Personally, I am not a Democrat but an Independent and Mr. Rove you have added a insult to you just being present in a public forum. So upon that your resignation from your position in the Bush Jr. Administration and from public life would suit me just fine at this time.


P.S. Mr. Rove you really fucked up on the private accounts in Social Security proposition did you not? Sending Mr. Bush Jr. out on the road on a failed exposition. Mr. Bush Jr. has not worked an honest day in his life, now he had to go around the country attempting to change the publics opinion. Is Mr. Bush Jr. a little cranky these days? Trying to make up for it? Yeah, it is a bitch when one is looking up to see bottom.

[KakistocracyHater]

51. Divided-we fall

ask why everything Republicans say & do is aimed chiefly to get Americans to hate each other, & to further divide Democrats. It is a war on many fronts, here in America & in the UK it's Information Warfare, & they're always trying to manipulate people's emotions. This was another example of the kind of stunts that are Karl Rove's specialty.

[jillan]

60. He was just on Scarborough, and i actually watched

He said that Move On had a petition against the war, replayed Durbin's remarks, the the prisoners in Gitmo are treated well (they showed footage of prisoners playing soccer!) and that we never got over 2000, and we're still not over 2004. Was down talking Dean. We are angry, and our anger is not good for the war on terror. Well Mr Rove, you are trying to make us angry!
Maybe we should just laugh this off! Maybe we should frame this with something other than anger, since anger is what he wants! Maybe we should laugh and say how out of touch he is instead.

[KakistocracyHater]

61. yeah, I noticed

that whenever any Progressive/Liberal gets understandably angry the Neocons jump up & down & point it out as if getting angry is a bad thing. Angry & weak, & everything bad, blah, blah, blah....

[Donna Zen]

52. Write...just write PLEASE

Ask everyone you know to write.

And then call...Please call.

They have completely fucked up. They have wrecked the Army. We are losing a battalon a month...300 Americans either dead or wounded a month. 5 billion dollars a month money we are borrowing away from our grandchildren's future. Gone.

Now they are trying to place the blame for their failure on Durbin.

They are vicious sick people.

Write

Alert your e-lists

And put aside the fucking 2004 primaries.

[zann725]

55. Insults or not, Rove IS on the defensive, folks. He's not just speaking

...he's trying to "change the flow" of Truth emerging about DSM, and is doing so by diverting 'the flow' to 9/11. 9/11...the old "fall'back" point for the Repugs when they need a boost in the Polls. When they're on the Defensive...we've got them 'on the run.' Instead of being annoyed, we should praise ourselves for the progress.

[laugle]

69. I agree, it's their phony little ploy to get us on the defensive!

After all, you know Bush won't fire him.

[wiggs]

57. Don't take the bait. Rove isn't the story. Bad policy is.

A minute spent writing letters about Rove is a minute not spent writing letters about napalm, fixing intelligence, Bolton, and Iraq.

Abu Ghraib photos are due any day by the way. Rove isn't the story.

[Miss Chybil]

58. Are you sure you don't want to give him therapy and understanding? nt

[IndianaGreen]

59. "This is war"?

"Rove insulted US - this is war!"

The rightwing has been waging war on us from the time Clinton first took office as President. Rightwing luminaries such as Pat Buchanan have spoken often about the "cultural war" between the GAWD-ly people and us heathens.

It is about time that those that advocated moderation when dealing with Bush have seen their reasoning totally discredited by the ruthless tactics of the rightwing. Lock and load!

[EndElectoral]

62. Rove's a diversion from the DSM...They want us talking about his ass

It takes attention off deaths in Iraq and DSM. It puts us on the defensive explaining how we're all patriots and Americans.

Of course we are. Rove wants us outraged and defending our actions. We don't need to defend them. We need to keep hammering DSM, and ask why casey said Fallujah was safe when those women lost their lives there today.

[jillan]

67. and that's what's so great about Kerry's letter

The timing! It's bringing it back. Instead of talking about Rove...we're talking about the dsm again.

[baron j]

63. Rove's hateful comments:

Straw, meet camel's back.

[laugle]

64. Rove's statement is nothing more than

a ploy to piss off democrats and DISTRACT us from DSM, the war, the rotten ecomomy, etc. That bald headed boob's new game plan is to get on the offensive. Besides, Bush would never fire him and he sure as hell wont apoligize. He has already changed his story by saying he meant move-on.org and not the congress. Kerry's letter will go straight into the garbage. I can already hear them laughing at the white house......

[laugle]

65. I think you should start a massive campaign,

directly to Rove, and shut him up!! Really, cuz that's probably the most you can hope for. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like many senators were interested in Kerry's letter. Anyway, Rove just did it as a distraction.