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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:13 PM
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Anyone out there good at turning a phrase?
I need help with phrasing and finishing a framing of an issue, i.e. religion/government...

I had the idea that we can turn it back at them

by saying something like......

Is your faith so weak, you need government to step in and make people comply?

or Do you not have enough faith in your church, to _____________?

or something on that order. Framing it as why don't you have faith and need the government to force feed it to us...
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:14 PM
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1. I'd flip it around
Is your faith in the government strong enough to allow them to make your spiritual decisions for you?
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:18 PM
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5. That's good. And true n/t
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:54 PM
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21. Good, beginning of the letter?
I usually start and end with a question...
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:15 PM
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2. How about "Go fuck yourself holy roller?" n/t
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:19 PM
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6. LOL
Now that's funny. Probably won't change any fundies' minds though. Darn!x( They're well known for having no sense of humor.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:52 PM
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20. You know I say that all the time,
but I think they did that already when they helped ** get back into office...
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:17 PM
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29. Maybe, but we got the weenie too. n/t
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AUYellowDog Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:16 PM
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3. Here's a shot or two
Is your faith so weak the only way you can get people to believe is is legislative action?

Is Congress the only way you have to convert people?

Do you have more faith in politicians than in your pastor/preacher?

Brandon
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:57 PM
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23. I like the last one... n/t
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:17 PM
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4. How bout
"Is God hard of hearing? If not, why do you feel the need to use a bullhorn?"
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:59 PM
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24. That would make a good sign... n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:20 PM
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7. Why do you need the government to sell God's message for you?
Is you're faith in God so weak that you now turn to the government to save men's souls?

Judas tried to force Jesus into his preconcieved mould of what a savior should be. Would you now be Judas, and force God's church to do YOUR bidding?

(eh, any good? I'll think about it some more)
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:22 PM
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8. I like the one in your subject line
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 07:22 PM by senseandsensibility
It's short and to the point. Very blunt.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:01 PM
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25. I really like the first one...
I think I can use that somewhere in the middle...
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:25 PM
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9. Do you let Washington legislate your prayers? (nt)
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:29 PM
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10. How About...Now I know where all those Moonies Went !!
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:02 PM
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27. You mean they're not at the airports anymore?
I was just talking about the Moonies today...
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:32 PM
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11. It's not about law ... It's about faith.
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 07:33 PM by Zen Democrat
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:34 PM
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12. When Faith is not enough, there is always Martial Law.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:39 PM
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13. Can't Convert em, make shooting them legal.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:46 PM
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14. Damn, you're all good, I like rzemanfl's best, because in my head
that is really what I am saying, but this is for The Voice of the People in our local paper...now I have lots of choices of how to frame it. Maybe I can work it to use most of them in different paragraphs...
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AUYellowDog Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:52 PM
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18. Post it
when you're done.

Brandon
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:06 PM
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28. The letter?
I'll probably write it tomorrow, tonight I'm just making notes and doing prep work for it...
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:18 PM
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30. Well then make it "Go fuck yourself tomorrow holy roller." n/t
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finecraft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:48 PM
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15. Try this: You should work on strengthening your own morals
instead of relying on the government to giving them to you.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:50 PM
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17. That would make a great wrap up phrase for the end of the
letter...
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:49 PM
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16. If you believe in the power of prayer, why do you need gov to push your ag
agenda?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:52 PM
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19. Is your faith so unsure, your government has to cram it down our throats?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:56 PM
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22. ...if this is what you mean?
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 08:00 PM by FrenchieCat
"God's no fool, The government is not his tool."
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:02 PM
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26. ...when thou prayest, stand not on the street corners like the hypocrites
I think Matthew said that.
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