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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:12 PM
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McClellan: "Well, are you going to let me finish, or are you going to..."
...keep jumping in?"

Q Scott, at the President's prime time speech next Tuesday night, how specific is he going to be on a strategy going forward? And do you foresee a shift in strategy at all?

MR. McCLELLAN: No, I think we have a clear strategy that we have outlined. The President is going to be talking about our strategy for success. He talked about how it is a two-track strategy. There's the military track and there's the political track. And he will talk in a very specific way about the way forward to succeeding and implementing that strategy. There is important progress that has been made. There are also many challenges that lie ahead -- he talked about that today. This is hard work; it is not an easy task that we have ahead of us. But the Iraqi people are showing through their courage that they are determined to have a peaceful and democratic future. And a free Iraq will be a powerful force for change in a dangerous region of the world, and helping to defeat the ideology of oppression and hatred and tyranny that the terrorists espouse.

Q Scott, I understand there is an anniversary date next Tuesday, but you're saying that this speech is happening, in part, because this is a critical moment, a critical time --

MR. McCLELLAN: That's correct.

Q -- in Iraq. What's more critical about this month and this moment than, say, a month ago or nine months ago?

MR. McCLELLAN: This is a critical period. The transitional government is moving forward on drafting a constitution. They are moving forward to prepare for an election for the Iraqi people to adopt that constitution. They are moving forward to hold elections for a permanent representative government. The terrorists, as you see on our TV screens, are a determined and ruthless enemy that has no regard for human life. They seek to do everything they can to derail the transition to democracy. But every step of the way they have failed to stop the advance of democracy and freedom in Iraq, because the Iraqi people are defying the terrorists and defying those who seek to stop democracy from taking root.

We have a number of our men and women who are serving in harm's way; all of us want to see those troops return home. We mourn and grieve when we lose our men and women in Iraq. They are making tremendous sacrifices in defense of freedom and supporting the advance of freedom in a dangerous region of the world. And the way to get them home is to complete the mission and succeed in Iraq. And we will succeed. We are making great progress, but there are difficulties and dangers ahead.

Q Is this moment any more critical than the critical moments you described in the run-up to the presidential election a year ago September/October, in the run-up to the election in Iraq last December/January? You said the same thing then, a "critical moment."

MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, I think you can go back and look at those time periods and look at what we said during that time period. This is a very critical period in Iraq. Here's why: because the terrorists are trying to test our resolve, and they're trying to shake the will of the international community and the Iraqi people. The terrorists, as General Abizaid --

Q They've been doing that for months, don't you agree or --

MR. McCLELLAN: No, as General Abizaid talked about, there have been a growing number of foreign terrorists coming in to Iraq, because they recognize that Iraq is a central front in the war on terrorism. And, Bill, we are a nation that is at war. And the Commander-in-Chief believes it's important to keep the American people informed about --

Q Yes, but what's changed?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, are you going to let me finish, or are you going to keep jumping in?

Q Well, you said the same thing before, and I accept what you say. But what's changed?

MR. McCLELLAN: I was just talking to you --

Q It's the same condition that we found ourselves in a year ago.

MR. McCLELLAN: I was just outlining to you why it's a critical period --

Q Yes, but it was a critical period for the same reason then.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- in Iraq, and we are a nation at war. And the Commander-in-Chief has a responsibility to keep the American people informed about the progress we're making and the strategy we have for succeeding. It's important that the American people know the progress that we're making and they understand the difficulties and dangers that lie ahead. This is a time when we are seeing that the enemy is determined and ruthless in the violence that they seek to spread to try to shake our will and shake our resolve. And that's why it's important to talk to the American people. It was important to talk to the American people at that time, as well, Bill.

Q Yes, but I mean, it's the same thing that you're saying.

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think that -- no, it's not. I think the American people want to hear from their Commander-in-Chief. And you may take it --

Q I'm not arguing about that.

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, you may take a different view, but I think the American people want to hear from their Commander-in-Chief, and they will have the --

Q That's not what I'm arguing about.

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, let's go on if you're not going to --

Q The Prime Minister talked about perhaps a Bush Plan, likening it to the Marshall Plan that helped rebuild Europe after World War II. And when the President was asked about reconstruction, he said of course, the U.S. is devoting resources, but the job belongs to the Iraqi people. Is there a different outlook between the Iraq Prime Minister and the President about the building of infrastructure?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I'll let him talk further about what he was talking about. But if you'll recall, there was an international conference earlier this week, more than 80 nations coming together to show their strong support for the Iraqi people. The international community is standing with the Iraqi people, and they talked about in their meetings -- both in the Oval Office and in the residence during the lunch -- about the importance of the international community continuing to support the Iraqi people and the transitional government as they move forward on this historic transformation that is taking place. And we've been, as the Prime Minister pointed out, providing tremendous support from the United States for the Iraqi people.

One issue that I imagine will continue to come up is the issue of debt relief. And there's a donor's conference coming up in Jordan here shortly, as the President talked about. So I think you're seeing that the international community is sending a strong message of support for the transitional government and for the Iraqi people. There are a number that have come forward with commitments, there are a number that have made commitments -- and we hope that they will move forward quickly to fulfill those commitments, because it's vital that we continue to stand with the Iraqi people as they move forward to meet their political objectives, which they are doing. The President talked about that.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:13 PM
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1. Think how mad the chimpster woulda been if he'd been "treated"
that way. (Wish more Irish reporters would interview him.)
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:16 PM
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5. Like that will ever happen again
you don't have a link to that report, do you?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:18 PM
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8. I am sure it's in the archives here, cause I read a transcript of it
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:32 PM
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13. Howzabout the "Official" White House transcript?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/06/20040625-2.html

Q Mr. President, you're going to arrive in Ireland in about 24 hours' time, and no doubt you will be welcomed by our political leaders. Unfortunately, the majority of our public do not welcome your visit because they're angry over Iraq, they're angry over Abu Ghraib. Are you bothered by what Irish people think?

THE PRESIDENT: Listen, I hope the Irish people understand the great values of our country. And if they think that a few soldiers represents the entirety of America, they don't really understand America then.

There have been great ties between Ireland and America, and we've got a lot of Irish Americans here that are very proud of their heritage and their country. But, you know, they must not understand if they're angry over Abu Ghraib -- if they say, this is what America represents, they don't understand our country, because we don't represent that. We are a compassionate country. We're a strong country, and we'll defend ourselves -- but we help people. And we've helped the Irish and we'll continue to do so. We've got a good relationship with Ireland.

Q And they're angry over Iraq, as well, and particularly the continuing death toll there.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I can understand that. People don't like war. But what they should be angry about is the fact that there was a brutal dictator there that had destroyed lives and put them in mass graves and had torture rooms. Listen, I wish they could have seen the seven men that came to see me in the Oval Office -- they had their right hands cut off by Saddam Hussein because the currency had devalued when he was the leader. And guess what happened? An American saw the fact that they had had their hands cut off and crosses -- or Xs carved in their forehead. And he flew them to America. And they came to my office with a new hand, grateful for the generosity of America, and with Saddam Hussein's brutality in their mind.

Look, Saddam Hussein had used weapons of mass destruction against his own people, against the neighborhood. He was a brutal dictator who posed a threat -- such a threat that the United Nations voted unanimously to say, Mr. Saddam Hussein --

Q Indeed, Mr. President, but you didn't find the weapons of mass destruction.

THE PRESIDENT: Let me finish. Let me finish. May I finish?

He said -- the United Nations said, disarm or face serious consequences. That's what the United Nations said. And guess what? He didn't disarm. He didn't disclose his arms. And, therefore, he faced serious consequences. But we have found a capacity for him to make a weapon. See, he had the capacity to make weapons. He was dangerous. And no one can argue that the world is better off with Saddam -- if Saddam Hussein were in power.

Q But, Mr. President, the world is a more dangerous place today. I don't know whether you can see that or not.

THE PRESIDENT: Why do you say that?

Q There are terrorist bombings every single day. It's now a daily event. It wasn't like that two years ago.

THE PRESIDENT: What was it like September the 11th, 2001? It was a -- there was a relative calm, we --

Q But it's your response to Iraq that's considered --

THE PRESIDENT: Let me finish. Let me finish, please. Please. You ask the questions and I'll answer them, if you don't mind.

On September the 11th, 2001, we were attacked in an unprovoked fashion. Everybody thought the world was calm. And then there have been bombings since then -- not because of my response to Iraq. There were bombings in Madrid. There were bombings in Istanbul. There were bombings in Bali. There were killings in Pakistan.

Q Indeed, Mr. President, and I think Irish people understand that. But I think there is a feeling that the world has become a more dangerous place because you have taken the focus off al Qaeda and diverted into Iraq. Do you not see that the world is a more dangerous place? I saw four of your soldiers lying dead on the television the other day, a picture of four soldiers just lying there without their flight jackets.

THE PRESIDENT: Listen, nobody cares more about the death than I do --

Q Is there a point or place --

THE PRESIDENT: Let me finish, please. Please. Let me finish, and then you can follow up, if you don't mind.

Nobody cares more about the deaths than I do. I care about it a lot. But I do believe the world is a safer place and becoming a safer place. I know that a free Iraq is going to be a necessary part of changing the world. Listen, people join terrorist organizations because there's no hope and there's no chance to raise their families in a peaceful world where there is not freedom. And so the idea is to promote freedom, and at the same time protect our security. And I do believe the world is becoming a better place, absolutely.

Q Mr. President, you are a man who has a great faith in God. I've heard you say many times that you strive to serve somebody greater than yourself.

THE PRESIDENT: Right.

Q Do you believe that the hand of God is guiding you in this war on terror?

THE PRESIDENT: Listen, I think that God -- that my relationship with God is a very personal relationship. And I turn to the good Lord for strength. And I turn to the good Lord for guidance. I turn to the good Lord for forgiveness.

But the God I know is not one that -- the God I know is one that promotes peace and freedom. But I get great sustenance from my personal relationship. That doesn't make me think I'm a better person than you are, by the way. Because one of the great admonitions in the Good Book is, don't try to take a speck out of your eye if I've got a log in my own.

Q You're going to meet Bertie Ahern when you arrive in Shannon Airport tomorrow. I guess he went out on a limb for you, presumably because of the great friendship between our two countries. Can you look him in the eye when you get there and say, it will be worth it, it will work out?

THE PRESIDENT: Absolutely. I wouldn't be doing this, I wouldn't have made the decisions I did if I didn't think the world would be better. Of course. I'm not going to put people in harm's way, our young, if I didn't think the world would be better. And --

Q Why is it that others --

THE PRESIDENT: Let me finish.

:toast:

ALSO:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2004/07/01/worldviews.DTL

On the eve of his departure for the European Union-U.S. summit in Ireland late last week, George W. Bush gave a sit-down interview to Irish TV journalist Carole Coleman in the White House Map Room. (Radio Television Eire; video clip may not work with all players)

Unlike American reporters, who lob softball questions Bush can field with prepared, rehearsed answers, Coleman performed as most European broadcast interviewers normally do -- in a naturally engaging, intellectually rigorous, conversational manner. However, Bush bristled at Coleman's questions and interviewing style, about which the White House (which posted a transcript of the session on its Web site) later "lodged an official complaint with the Irish embassy in Washington."
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:41 PM
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14. "He didn't disarm. .."
That's the most damning transcript I've seen yet. He parrots the lies and sometimes realizes it as he's talking, and adjusts as he goes along.

Words fail me.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:13 PM
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17. I hate when they tell us about what is on our TV screens.
"The terrorists, as you see on our TV screens, are a determined and ruthless enemy that has no regard for human life."

Like we only understand pictures?? I've heard * say the same shit about TV screens. WTF?

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wrate Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:54 PM
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33. Absolutely. It's like equating TV and reality. Which is preposterous. n/t
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:15 PM
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19. Wasn't there a female Irish reporter that gave * a hard time
last year (I think)? That was pretty awesome. The Irish are fierce!!
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:16 PM
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20. That's the same reporter.
:toast:
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:18 PM
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22. I'm suprised he did an interview with her!!! n/t
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:22 PM
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25. Oh, I didn't look at the date - this interview IS the original interview
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 05:23 PM by jasmeel
with the Irish woman!

:spank:
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:36 PM
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26. Yep!
:toast:
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:55 PM
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30. Must be a relative of Claire Short or David Kelley
That's my idea of digging out the truth, earning your salt, rocking the boat, setting the example, speaking truth to power and showing your ass to the king.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:21 PM
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24. OMG, What a farce!
He spouts his own lies, then remembers to cover them up, and nobody, NOBODY in the established media calls him on it!

the United Nations said, disarm or face serious consequences. That's what the United Nations said. And guess what? He didn't disarm. He didn't disclose his arms. And, therefore, he faced serious consequences.


He conveniently drags the UN into his "serious consequences" business, when what he did, as a bully, is not what the UN wanted to do.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:13 PM
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2. The have repeated the same shit over and over
and just don't realize it.....
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:41 PM
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28. Call Bill Murray...
Be a pretty funny sequel to "Groundhog Day."
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:16 PM
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3. When every day kills more Americans, all moments are critical.
When every week costs another billion

When every day costs us more in world respect

When every lie we tell and bullshit prediction we make degrades us a little more

When we are being made less safe by the moment

IT'S ALL A CRITICAL TIME
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:16 PM
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4. Who's the insistent reporter?
Gregory? Roberts?
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Barak And Roll Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:17 PM
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6. Damn
Jesus, even the guy whose job it is to answer questions hates answering questions. A press secretary who's rude to press. Ha! Sounds like Bolton.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:18 PM
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7. has anyone asked him about the drones over Iran or troops in Syria?
Bush Inc. is going to distract us with yet more
bombing to "soften up the enemy"

Tommy Franks should be in Gitmo and his Freedom
medal returned to the American people.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:19 PM
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9. Shut the Fuck Up, McClellan!!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:26 PM
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11. There is no more Insurgency.
There are only terrorists in Iraq trying to stop the march of Freedom.
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:23 PM
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10. "Strategy for success"
The only successes * has had was running the Taliban out of Kabul using plans developed under the Clinton administration and squeezing out two highly controversial electoral college victories. He is a malevolent failure without parallel in American history.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:29 PM
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12. Love Seeing Puffy McMoonFace SQUIRM! RECOMMENDED!
He is actually getting pretty amusing.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:48 PM
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15. catapult the propaganda
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:51 PM
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29. Your picture's worth a thousand words
Look at Coulter, ass backwards as usual.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:56 PM
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16. "Well, are you going to let me finish" - You are finished
More importantly so are we. We're finished apologizing, we are finished volunteering, we are finished listening to you but worst of all (for you) our fear is replaced by scorn and contempt. The day Durbin apologized is the first day of the Democratic Reconquista.
EVERYBODY sees you for the thugs and bullies you are.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:14 PM
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18. What Scottie couldn't say: "this is a critical moment because the
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 05:20 PM by mistertrickster
American people are saying, 'f*** this s***' and it's killing Wimp in the polls. He's taking the whole party down with him."

That's what critical about it.

This is the beginning of the end of BushCo and the Republican party as we know it. The radical right is just about ready to get its ass handed to it.

Let the campaigns of 2006 begin . . . YEARRGH!
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:17 PM
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21. Amen! * is polling in the low 40's, the repub congress is polling super
low - it is a critical time and I LOVE it!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:20 PM
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23. Who was the reporter? Bang up job! n/t
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:40 PM
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27. What'd he say?
I'm dizzy.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:22 PM
Response to Original message
31. Snotty Scotty
strikes again.

What a wanker.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:29 PM
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32. Scott McClellan IS Ron Ziegler reincarnated ! Can't wait to see
Cheney or * shoving him during the impeachment proceedings !
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:24 PM
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35. I'll settle for Scottie trying to top Ziegler's classic line

This is the operative statement. The others are inoperative.

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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:09 PM
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34. Yes, just who WAS this gutsy reporter (just doing his job, of course)?
I heard it this afternoon but I didn't catch his name or see his face.

He's doing what every reporter should've been doing since DAY ONE. If somebody found out, we could sing his praises to his media outlet!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:01 PM
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36. Yes! Who is the reporter,don't keep us in the dark any longer....
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:11 PM
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37. mirror mirror... who's that chimpanzee "projected" into it???
>>>>>>> what they should be angry about is the fact that there was a brutal dictator there that had destroyed lives and put them in mass graves and had torture rooms <<<<<<<<

** cannot understand they are angry NOW because he is the NEW "brutal dictator there that had destroyed lives and put them in mass graves and had torture rooms"

nah... the chimperror's got no cl... clue:

** catapultes his propaganda...
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 06:28 PM
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38. They're saying "move forward" a lot more. That's different.
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I'll let him (Bush)talk further about what he was talking about.
(in other words, "How in the hell am I supposed to know what he's talking about?")
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