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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 03:47 AM
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My Liberal Values
Edited on Sun Jun-26-05 04:17 AM by Timebound
I just spent an evening writing this on a blog, so I figure that I'll share it here too. Feel free to flame away...

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I've about had it up to here with people who tell me that I'm amoral because I'm a Liberal. People say I don't know what I believe in, that I have no morals. That I blow in the wind, ect.

Well, let me tell you, I do have morals. I have values that I hold near and dear to my heart. LIBERAL IS NOT A DIRTY WORD. So I've taken a little bit of time out of my day to let you know what my values are. It's important to note that I don't speak for all Liberals, just myself. Nothing is as simple as black and white (or 'us and them', if you're into Bush-speak).

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#1 - All Men/Women are Created Equal and Therefore Deserve Equal Rights

Yes, that's ALL men and women. Civil Unions for gay people but not marriage? Sorry, but I don't seem to remember that 'separate but equal' thing working back during segregation days. And it's not going to work now. And no, this is something I WILL NOT compromise, because the Constitution demands such a high standard.


#2 - When Your Fellow Man/Woman Needs a Helping Hand, You Should Offer It

For some reason, people seem to think that homeless people are out there by choice, that they're lazy, or bums, or that it's their fault. It's not always this simple. The same goes for a lot of drug addicts, prostitutes, and countless other people that live on the streets. Poverty drives people to do extreme things to survive. Abusive homes force wives and children to flee, sometimes when they don't have anywhere to go. And they end up on the streets.

We're not giving a handout, we're giving a helping hand. There's a huge difference. Has there ever been a moment in your life that things were so bad that you didn't know where the help would come from? Did you ever have a low point like that? Well, if so then you know what I mean. That's not a handout. It's a helping hand.

But how can our government give a helping hand when it's got such a huge deficit? (Of course, we essentially gave a handout to Haliburton. But I guess that's all right in Bush's book.)


#3 - I am Pro-Choice because I am Pro-Life

People don't seem to understand that banning abortion is not going to stop abortion. You ban abortion and death rates will go up. People will still have sex, women will still get pregnant, and if someone wants to get rid of that baby, they are going to find a way. They will throw themselves down stairs, they will starve themselves, they will use coathangers. Women will flee to backstreet clinics where they are not guarenteed of a safe proceedure, and then not only will abortions not stop, more women will die, leaving behind broken families. Of course, many of these deaths will not be attributed to abortion because hey, who wants to admit to breaking the law by performing a botched proceedure? Abortion needs to stay the way it is: legal, safe, and rare.

And another point, I am absoultely anti-death penalty. It is SENSELESS murder. An eye for an eye? We call ourselves the greatest nation on Earth, and yet we still hold such a vengeful value near and dear to our hearts? How can we possibly consider it justice when we repay murder with more murder?

The Greatness of a country is not determined by size or power, but by how we treat our prisoners. Some people say our system is too soft on criminals, but if you don't like it, why don't you go on over to El Salvador where your first drunk driving offense gets you executed by a firing squad? There are no second chances in many places across the world for crimes.

Our system is designed to rehabilitate people, not just throw them away like garbage. The guarentees of accused people under the Constitution were written because the Founders believed that everyone was entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They believed in the rights of each person. So our Constitution is for ALL citizens, not just a select few. And the Death Penalty is the untimate denial of American Civil Liberties.

The system may not work as well as we want it to sometimes. But I believe that it is still a good system. You disagree? Well then, please feel free to waive your rights when you're falsely accused of a crime.

One more brief point. If all you on the far Religious Right are so Pro-Life, then you SHOULD care about stopping the death penalty. I present to you two quotes from Jesus:

"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these My brethren, ye have done it unto Me."

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

And remember, Jesus asked God to forgive his executioners, because they "know not what they do."


#4 - Spend Money RESPONSIBLY

The horrible liberal President Clinton (who had that sinful affair!) left us with a huge surplus and a booming economy. The wonderful illustrious saintly President Bush (God Himself told him to go to war!) has brought us a horrible economy and the biggest deficit in history. OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WILL SUFFER BECAUSE OF THIS. I don't think people understand how serious a problem this is. We are in deep trouble. Ask any economist, and he/she will tell you we are going to VERY lucky if the economy does not collaspe because of this deficit.

But hey, at least the gay people can't get married. Glad we got our priorities straight.


#5 - DO NOT LIE. AND DO NOT FLIP-FLOP ON A PRINCIPLE YOU PUBLICLY STATE BECAUSE IT NO LONGER SERVES YOU.


Downing Street Memo. As far as lies go, need I say more? (Google 'downing street memo' if you have no idea what I'm talking about.)

Oh, I'm sorry, that's your memory that's in error. But don't worry, I'm sure the current Administration will be glad to revise history faster next time. The White House, lie? Haha, never. < / sarcasm >

As for flip-floping on principles, one only has to look back to Clinton's affair to remember all those quotes thrown around about 'He lied, impeach him!' and 'His finger is on the Nuclear button and he lied, he shouldn't be left with that power.'

Clinton lied about sex, and no one died. Bush lied about Iraq and WMD, and untold thousands died (over a thousand of which are American. But those same people who called for Clinton's impeachment over a lie are mysteriously silent.

Quite the flip-flop, eh boys?




So lets sum this up. My Liberal Values:

#1 - All Men/Women are Created Equal
#2 - Help Your Fellow Man
#3 - Protect All Life and Give all Citizens their Constiutional Rights
#4 - Spend Taxpayer Money Responsibly
#5 - Don't lie.



Say what you want about me being a sinner, or about how amoral I am. I know what I believe in, and I am proud to be a Liberal.


I'm not bashing religion in this post. Some of the best people I know are devout Christians, and are people that would give the coats off their backs to someone in need. It's just directed at the select few that hide behind religion to justify themseleves, but do not honor the principles of 'their' relgion.

And I'm not anyone special, just a poor college kid trying to make her way through the world. I don't always do the right things (and I don't know anyone who does). But I will always try to remember to give my fellow man a helping hand when he needs one.

The world will never change unless we all remember that.



EDIT: Clarified the point about drunk driving in El Salvador. Sorry about that.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 04:05 AM
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1. please remember that the man who made LIBERAL a dirty word is none other
than GEORGE HERBERT WALKER POPPY BUSH himself... and he did it not because HE BELIEVES THAT being a liberal is DIRTY...and I am willing to bet my bottom dollar on that. he did it because he felt threatened by it...and because HE FELT THREATENED BY THE CLEANLINESS OF LIBERALS ... he, after all, was, and is, BOUND BY THE DIRTINESS OF HIS OWN GOONISH CONSTRAINTS .
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 04:09 AM
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2. So H. W. Bush......
The liberals are back in force to show you that a goon doesn't last. You must be absolutely shamed that your son could outdo you in every possible respect of human suffering, dignity, and anti-democratic ideals......

Your son has destroyed everything. You, at least, had some conscience. Your son doesn't and he's nothing but a plant by Dick Cheney and a bunch of fascists.

So why don't you wake up Herbert Walker, what did the liberals ever do to you? :shrug:

Other than point out the truth about your misdeeds......And your tried and true anti-democratic family who created and spawned the W himself.

:think: :think:
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 04:12 AM
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4. Absoultely.
'The W'. Heh, I'm going to have to remember that one. :)
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 04:10 AM
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3. Agreed. 100 Percent.
Liberal is not a dirty word. We have values. We have morals, and we want what's best for our country. That's why I was motivated to write this in the first place. :)
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 04:21 AM
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5. liberal & proud of it!
Liberal, compassionate, vegetarian, and proud of it. Fuck Bush and the horse he rode in on!
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 05:29 AM
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6. Welcome to DU, from a Tulsa Dem
I'm glad you are here!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:02 AM
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11. He's too scared to ride on a horse
but I know what you mean! Welcome to DU OKDem08.
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:11 AM
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16. *waves*
:)

Welcome to DU.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:32 AM
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31. Hitler did a pretty good job belittling Liberals as well.
I believe he may have been the first to really launch a major assault. Hitler was another one who hated a lot.
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Doomy Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 05:32 AM
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7. I clipped
your 5 principals and taped them to my refrigerator. Most of the religious people I know are freepers and would do better with your principals than the 10 commendmants.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 05:35 AM
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8. Well said!
Welcome to DU!!

:hi: :thumbsup:
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Doomy Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 05:47 AM
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9. Thank-you
The DU must be the biggest and best forum on the planet. I am so glad I found it.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:03 AM
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12. I don't know whether we're the biggest
but I definitely think we're the best.
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 02:09 PM
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28. Definately the best. :)
But I haven't come across any place that's bigger yet. :)
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:14 AM
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17. Wow
Really? *embarrassed*

I wrote them because I got mad over a flamewar I'd read about left vs right values. I'm tired of being told I'm amoral, anti-american, ect.

:patriot:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:01 AM
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10. No flames here
You spoke eloquently to what I believe.

And you're a college kid, huh? Man, would that I could have written so beautifully when I was a college kid.
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:20 AM
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19. Thanks
Sometimes I just feel like a lone voice screaming in the wind, hoping someone is there to listen. :)
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 02:29 PM
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29. I know that feeling
Here, sometimes people do respond. But on my LJ where I offer up the most important articles for people to read, I almost never get a response. I wish LJ had a feature where you could tell how many times a post had been accessed. It's not that I want the ego trip but it is nice to know that you aren't yelling into the wind.
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:29 AM
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13. It depends on how you count deaths.
"You ban abortion and death rates will go up."

Well, that depends on how you count. If you take literally the wingnut morality that counts even an early stage embryo as equivalent to a sentient person, every abortion ends in a death. They put up memorials by the sides of highways, fields of white crosses, to represent the number of "people" so lost every day.

I fear that you have not plumbed the depths of their moral imbalance. You will not convince them with reason. They are on a crusade, and the rest of us are in their crosshairs.
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:10 AM
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15. Oh, there is no convincing anyone on a moral crusade...
My point was that not only will abortions not stop (still resulting in embryo death) many women will die from botched proceedures too.

I know the depths of their moral imbalance. Three years ago I was one of them. (Thank god I saw the light, eh?)

Oh yes, we are absoultely in their crosshairs. They'd shoot down Jesus himself if they thought it'd help their cause...
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:50 AM
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14. Excellent and thoughtful post...
Thank you.

TC
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:21 AM
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20. Re
Glad you liked it. :)
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:17 AM
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18. You summarized my thoughts so well. Were you reading my mind?
Thanks for posting.
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:22 AM
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21. :)
*uses her super-evil liberal superpowers bestowed upon her by the witch Hilary Clinton to read your mind*

Err...eh...hmm...not working. Guess liberals aren't that evil after all...


:)
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:24 AM
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22. Great post!
I enjoyed reading it. you should forward it to the DNC.
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:31 AM
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24. Heh, thanks. :) n/t
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Angie_White Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:29 AM
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23. Great post! n/t
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:33 AM
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25. Welcome to DU! :)
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Angie_White Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 02:01 AM
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30. Thanks
I really like it here.
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:42 AM
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26. Wonderful post!
IMHO #1 and #3 are privacy issues. The government should not tell you who you can or can't marry. They shouldn't be able to tell you how you use your body.

PS to the pugs
If I want to use a sex toy, that's my effing business. Stay out of our bedrooms, you perverts.

Sorry got off on a rant. :)
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 02:07 PM
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27. Absoultely agree.
Don't worry about it. I absoultely agree. :)
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Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:36 AM
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32. Outstanding.
Got a link to this blog, or is it a private page? I figure if stuff like this is on it, I'd like to read more.

This goes to anyone here who writes a a blog, but especially to Timebound. She managed to put everything I think on one page, which I couldn't have.
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