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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:00 PM
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Who Are Americans to Think That Freedom Is Theirs to Spread?
Despite the exceptional character of American liberty, every American president has proclaimed America's duty to defend it abroad as the universal birthright of mankind. John F. Kennedy echoed Jefferson when, in a speech in 1961, he said that the spread of freedom abroad was powered by ''the force of right and reason''; but, he went on, in a sober and pragmatic vein, ''reason does not always appeal to unreasonable men.'' The contrast between Kennedy and the current incumbent of the White House is striking. Until George W. Bush, no American president -- not even Franklin Roosevelt or Woodrow Wilson -- actually risked his presidency on the premise that Jefferson might be right. But this gambler from Texas has bet his place in history on the proposition, as he stated in a speech in March, that decades of American presidents' ''excusing and accommodating tyranny, in the pursuit of stability'' in the Middle East inflamed the hatred of the fanatics who piloted the planes into the twin towers on Sept. 11.

If democracy plants itself in Iraq and spreads throughout the Middle East, Bush will be remembered as a plain-speaking visionary. If Iraq fails, it will be his Vietnam, and nothing else will matter much about his time in office. For any president, it must be daunting to know already that his reputation depends on what Jefferson once called ''so inscrutable arrangement of causes and consequences in this world.''

The consequences are more likely to be positive if the president begins to show some concern about the gap between his words and his administration's performance. For he runs an administration with the least care for consistency between what it says and does of any administration in modern times. The real money committed to the promotion of democracy in the Middle East is trifling. The president may have doubled the National Endowment for Democracy's budget, but it is still only $80 million a year. But even if there were more money, there is such doubt in the Middle East that the president actually means what he says -- in the wake of 60 years of American presidents cozying up to tyrants in the region -- that every dollar spent on democracy in the Middle East runs the risk of undermining the cause it supports. Actual Arab democrats recoil from the embrace of American good intentions. Just ask a community-affairs officer trying to give American dollars away for the promotion of democracy in Mosul, in northern Iraq, how easy it is to get anyone to even take the money, let alone spend it honestly.

And then there are the prisoners, the hooded man with the wires hanging from his body, the universal icon of the gap between the ideals of American freedom and the sordid -- and criminal -- realities of American detention and interrogation practice. The fetid example of these abuses makes American talk of democracy sound hollow. It will not be possible to encourage the rule of law in Egypt if America is sending Hosni Mubarak shackled prisoners to torture. It will be impossible to secure democratic change in Morocco or Afghanistan or anywhere else if Muslims believe that American guards desecrated the Koran. The failure to convict anybody higher than a sergeant for these crimes leaves many Americans and a lot of the world wondering whether Jefferson's vision of America hasn't degenerated into an ideology of self-congratulation, whose function is no longer to inspire but to lie.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/26/magazine/26EXCEPTION.html?incamp=article_popular
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:03 PM
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1. Yeah, and who are the Repugs to think manure is theirs to
spread?
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:08 PM
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2. "Freedom" is just code for "Empire"
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:11 PM
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3. Oh, please
"as he stated in a speech in March, that decades of American presidents' ''excusing and accommodating tyranny, in the pursuit of stability'' in the Middle East inflamed the hatred of the fanatics who piloted the planes into the twin towers on Sept. 11. "

The Bushies are so in bed with the Saudis they probably know what cologne W wears.
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olacan Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:16 PM
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4. So
as I understand from your statement 9 11 is our fault?

as he stated in a speech in March, that decades of American presidents' ''excusing and accommodating tyranny, in the pursuit of stability'' in the Middle East inflamed the hatred of the fanatics who piloted the planes into the twin towers on Sept. 11. "



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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:51 PM
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6. I'm sensing freeper bait, but okay..
Saudi Arabia is hardly what I would a Democracy, what with the non-existence of any type of elections, and less than stellar advocacy of human rights and all. And weren't quite a few of those 9/11 hijackers Saudis? Hardly any Iraqis were involved if I'm can recalling correctly. Now, I haven't heard much from Bush on the subject of bringing democracy to Saudi Arabia because it's a breeding ground for terrorism, but whether that's due to his relationship to the House of Saud through the Carlyle Group (cha-ching!) or he just hasn't gotten around to it yet, I guess time will tell now won't it?

So to answer your question: No. 9/11 is not "our" fault.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:19 PM
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5. i think it is our inalienable right and duty to help our fellow man
and to spread real freedom and free others from despotism and to allow them to create their own governments.

But while bushco gives lip service to freedom they strive to become the rulers, everywhere.
It is obvious that they are not pro-democracy.
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