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cbua34 Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:26 PM
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Dean being hypocritical again.....
with these remarks about "dirty tactics" in Iowa. Wasn't his campaign caught calling Kerry supporters and bad mouthing Kerry, trying to get them to convert to Dean? In fact this was caught on videotape when one of the Dean callers unknowningly called a Kerry precinct captain.

Another example is Dean people going into Kerry headquarters undercover, trying to get information on the campaign.

Dean ran the dirtiest campaign in Iowa, he should never say anything about "dirty tactics".
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pezcore64 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:28 PM
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1. ....
actually it was the other way around

so yeah, go look into something before you start making false statements.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:29 PM
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2. No actually the precise opposite is true
it was Kerry's campaign who got caught, on tape no less, making push poll calls.
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Darth_Ole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:32 PM
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5. link, cbua34?
I never heard a thing about Dean's people doing such things.

These latest reports about the calls in NH are troubling. And sickening.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:31 PM
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3. Legitimate links please.
You need to back up those assertions with real evidence.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:32 PM
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4. Hellloooooooooooo?
Greetings from planet Earth.

It was Kerry's campaign caught on tape making calls dissing Dean.
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Nazgul35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:34 PM
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6. lol....
what do you expect!
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:35 PM
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9. It was on c-span, wasn't it? nt
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:34 PM
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7. 180 degrees wrong.
The exact opposite is what occured in Iowa, as a matter of fact.
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pezcore64 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:39 PM
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13. ...
yeah, infact it was discussed here on DU after it happened...im to lazy to try and find that link and im unable to use the search option since i havent contributed any money to DU. So anyone who does have the privledge, it wouldnt hurt to look for it and post its link in this thread.

but yeah, it was the complete opposite of what this original poster has posted
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:35 PM
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8. Have you seen the GD2004 rules?
Specifically, this one?

8. If you make a factual assertion about a candidate that is not generally accepted to be true, you must provide a link to a reputable source to back up your claim. Allegedly "innocent" questions which are actually an underhanded effort to spread rumors are not allowed. If you really need to know the answer to your question, try Google.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=116334




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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:36 PM
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10. I think you meant hypercritical
"hyper-" means over what it should be;
"hypo-" means under what is should be.

A hypodermic needle is one that gets under the skin; A hyper person overreacts to stuff. I've never seen Dean be hypo-anything.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:36 PM
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11. Don't make charges you can't back up
That's always a good policy for civil discourse.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:38 PM
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12. I will satrt off by saying, boy did this ever backfire on you!
Now I will say Kerry seems to be the only dirty politician right now. Clark is an Officer & a Gentleman, Edwards is a Southern Gentleman, Dean Is a kind Doctor & gentleman (although over zealous but thats a good thing!) IMO Kerry is nothing but Washington trash.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:41 PM
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16. Let me reiterate
Accusations and smears with no proof. And Dean has run the dirtiest campaign around.

1. In June in San Fran, he publicly lied about Edwards' stance on the IWR and then immediately, privately tells the media it was false. Then he apologized to Edwards by letter. Cowardly.


2. In SC in July at the SC Debates, Dennis K. accuses Dean of stating that Dean has previously said (which is true) that he is in favor of raising the age of retirement. Dean says he never made such comments, then the media slams Dean the next day with his own quotations from 1995, and a few weeks prior on Meet the Press.

3. A month ago, Dean attributes Bob Kerrey's vote against aid to farmers in the midwest to John Kerry. After this is debunked in the media, Dean's campaign is still distributing large quantitites of pamphlets with the lies and false information.

How many other candidates have had to issue one apology for gaffes, misrepresentations, outright lies?

Whose campaign is sleazy? Physician, heal thyself.
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pezcore64 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:41 PM
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17. ...
Im like you, im pretty fond of all of them except for poor mr kerry. he just comes off fake to me. another photo op president. playing hockey for the cameras and riding a motocycle onto leno eek...seems like hes overally trying to be hip or something. a real turn off to me.

im a dean / clark / edwards kinda guy myself ;)
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cbua34 Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:40 PM
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14. I stand corrected and apologize
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:40 PM
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15. Better do a whole lot better than throw out a bunch of empty charges
if you want to survive around DU.
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:43 PM
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18. Could you provide a link for this please?
You know your first story sounds a lot like this one:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/ThisWeek/Kerry_Dean_calls_040117-1.html
Except the names are switched around to make Dean look bad.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:45 PM
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19. Locking
8. If you make a factual assertion about a candidate that is not generally accepted to be true, you must provide a link to a reputable source to back up your claim. Allegedly "innocent" questions which are actually an underhanded effort to spread rumors are not allowed. If you really need to know the answer to your question, try Google.

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