Radar Magazine: Rove's plans for Giuliani (Frist-Giuliani '08?)

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

http://www.radarmagazine.com/fresh-intelligence/#report_001506

Rudy’s Rude Awakening?

Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani’s talk-show cheerleading of President George W. Bush may be getting tiresome, but it’s all part of GOP strategist Karl Rove’s master plan to get “America’s mayor” elected in 2008, we hear. But not necessarily to the Oval Office.

According to well-placed political sources, Giuliani has been working closely with Rove to build a Presidential platform against presumed Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton. “There’s been talk on Capitol Hill for months about Rove’s ‘secret meetings’ in New York with Giuliani,” says one D.C. operative. “(Rudy) is not appearing on Hardball and Larry King for his health.”

But sources say the job Rove has in mind for Giuliani isn’t the one the ever-ambitious ex-mayor is angling for; as usual, the Boy Genius has his own ideas. “Whoever gets the Republican nomination is going to appear so extremist that it will be hard for them to appeal to moderates, the core of winning any national election, in the national arena,” notes our insider. “But you add on an American hero like Rudy Giuliani and you have a likable ticket. Just prepare yourself for constant reels of Giuliani saving New York on September 11, 2001.”

Painfully familiar with Rove’s machinations and mindful that Giuliani is likely too moderate to ever win the GOP’s blessing, Democratic strategists have taken to viewing him as a “secret weapon”—the kind of middle-of-the-road Republican (i.e. pro-choice and non-anti-gay) who would look good in the VP slot next to a fire-breather like Bill Frist. Just don’t tell Rudy. Neither representatives for Rove nor Giuliani returned calls seeking comment by press time.

[Poiuyt]

1. I would love to see that ticket

Frist, the cat-killer, has the charisma of a rock. Rudy kicked his wife out of Gracie Mansion so he could move his mistress in.

[KurtNYC]

12. Yes - Bring it on Rove

Nobody likes dressing up more than Rudy. And in general, the more repugs see of Rudy the less they will like him.

[wallwriter]

15. Seriously. Giuliani was widely loathed until 9-11.

I still hate the guy, but at least he went straight to the scene of the trouble, instead of "getting out of harm's way" like Shrub.

[LiberalFighter]

20. Would had been more difficult for him to get out of "harm's way"

considering that he was the mayor of New York City. Leaving the city would had labeled him a coward.

Wouldn't the mindset of New Yorkers be that they don't take crap from others?

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

2. A "crumb" for the moderates....

Who the hell votes for the VP? Does he really think that the moderate/liberal Republicans will fall for this old trick? Ya, some may have bought it when they only displayed the moderates during prime time at the GOP convention because few people actually read the zealot RW platform. But the Schiavo case was a real wake-up call that illustrated the extreme nature of the modern GOP.

[Skidmore]

7. Didn't people in 2000 basically give * a pass because of his

having Cheney on the ticket? Been done before--voting for the VP.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

8. I didn't personally but maybe some did....

In any case, only those with less than 50% of their brain or a true theocratic-neocon would vote for this facade.

BTW, I've voted AGAINST a ticket because of the VP (Dan Quayle) but never for a ticket.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. I don't see Giuliani going for it.

He's too much of a powermonger himself. He wouldn't tolerate being second in command.

[keithjx]

5. True, but

If he looks at the present model, DICK holds all the power. The problem RUDE-Y has is that he wants to spotlight AND the power. So I agree with you, he wouldn't be happy about it.
KJ

[LiberalFighter]

21. Cardiac jerk knows the workings of Congress...

therefore it gives him more power than gw*dipshit.

Wouldn't be the same with a Frist/Rudy ticket.

[Norquist Nemesis]

13. I only see it if it comes down to primaries similar to 2004

If there's nine Republicans running and "the base" manage to boost Frist to being nominee. Sort of like Kerry/Edwards similarities.

Wouldn't it be fun to see a Frist/Hagel/McCain/Guiliani/Santorum/Hutchison/Pat Robertson/Romney/Schwarzkopf debate?

[Zynx]

4. Frist is so unappealing that even IF Giuliani could help him he would lose

[Comicstripper]

6. This makes a lot of sense....

Damn that Rove.
As we saw in 2004, though, people don't vote for Vice President...

[blm]

14. Except I am quite certain Rove will be working for George Allen, not Frist

.

[corbett]

17. Interesting! Do Tell! Have You Heard Something Concrete?

I'm dying of anticipation. My whole theory about McCain-Bush as the 2008 ticket is based on Rove's defection from McCain.

[blm]

19. I just noticed that Allen was the go-to guy in the Senate after Frist

bombed out on the Schiavo debacle.

And I heard a few times late last year that Allen had met with Rove.

[wicket]

9. An ad needs run of GHOULiani blaming the troops for missing explosives

Anyone remember this from last fall?

Rudy Guiliani blames troops for missing explosives

"The president was cautious the president was prudent the president did what a commander in chief should do. No matter how you try to blame it on the president the actual responsibility for it really would be for the troops that were there. Did they search carefully enough? Didn't they search carefully enough?"

Fucking asshole :grr:

[blm]

10. "Thank God for a pres. who didn't read HartRudman Report on Global Terror

that was handed to him on Jan 30, 2001, or else I wouldn't be as rich and famous as I am today."

You mean THAT Rudy Giuliani? I'd run Kristen Breitweiser against the faux Rudy.

[leyton]

11. I don't see how that's a winning ticket.

A boring, uncharismatic Senator who failed to push through the nuclear option and a pro-choice pro-gay guy with marital troubles. I thought Rove was dead set on motivating the religious right? As we saw with George W. Bush, they don't mind sitting on their hands for a cycle if they don't care for the Republican.

[Dulcinea]

16. It'll never happen.

Rudy Giuliani has too much ego to play second fiddle to anyone. Plus, he's Catholic, divorced, pro-choice, & even more unacceptable to the fundies than Frist, whose stock with the fundies dropped dramatically after the Schiavo fiasco.

[kskiska]

18. AND…

Rudi is anti-gun. He'll take all their guns away.