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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:39 AM
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CNN Flash Poll, Bush FAILS Miserably...Mostly Repub. sample. Whoa!
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 12:40 AM by autorank
Here is the transcript from Aaron Brown tonight. My highlights tell the story. With a 2 to 1 Republican poll sample (many of "us" didn't watch,haha), he still gets a majority who say his Iraq policy is a failure. Mission accomplished! The public has awakened. Watch out *.

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Transcript: CNN Aaron Brown, June 28, 2005 10:00PM-11:00PM EDT

BILL SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Aaron, we spoke to speak who watched the president's speech tonight and asked them their reaction.

Now, this not a random sample of the American public. People who watched the president's speech were more likely to be Republicans. OK? That's right. It's about two to one Republicans. It's 50 percent Republicans, 23 percent Democratic, 27 percent independent.

Now, 46 percent of those viewers had a very positive reaction to the speech. Now, that is considerably lower than the 67 percent who had a very positive reaction to the president's speech of May the 1st, 2003, when he declared the major fighting in Iraq over from the deck of the aircraft carrier.

In fact, 46 percent is a less favorable response than President Bush has gotten to most of his State of the Union speeches.

The president scored his biggest gains on this question: is it better for the U.S. to keep a significant number of troops in Iraq until the situation improves, even if that takes many years, or should the U.S. set a timetable for removing troops?

Before the speech, 58 percent of these viewers said the U.S. should keep troops in Iraq as long as it takes. After the speech, that number jumped 12 points, to 70 percent.

Now President Bush argued that Iraq is the latest battlefield in the war on terrorism and that Americans fight in Iraq to protect the United States from another attack like 9/11.

But fewer than half the viewers, 45 percent, to be precise, believe the war in Iraq has made the war on terrorism easier. Thirty- seven percent said it's made the war on terrorism tougher, and 14 percent say it hasn't made any difference.

So you have a majority of viewers, 37 plus 14, again, a strongly Republican group, rejecting the president's argument that Iraq has helped the U.S. in the overall war on terrorism -- Aaron.

BROWN: OK. I think I heard coming up that about half the people who watched the speech tonight self-identify as Republicans. Is that about right?

SCHNEIDER: That's right. It's about two to one Republicans. It's 50 percent Republicans, 23 percent Democratic, 27 percent independent.

And here's something interesting: we -- a thousand people told us -- told the Gallup poll that they intended to watch the speech. But when we contacted them after the speech, only a third of them actually watched. There are a lot of other things people do on a summer evening.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:03 AM
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1. I think this proves Gergen right

his analysis was that * needed to buy more time... hence, NO
WITHDRAWAL TIMETABLE. And that seems to be the only thing that *
improved upon with this speech. He hoped to stop the calls for
a timetable. Why? Because if there was a timetable, he would have
to explain why a) they are building permanent bases, and b) why
he isn't meeting the timetable (since we, in fact, have NO plans to
ever withdraw until all of the oil there is sucked out). Rumsfeld
already prepped this for a 10 to 12 year effort, and that might be
how long the oil there lasts (at least the easy to retrieve stuff).

So... * needs more time, and he needs no timetable. So, for now,
it may be "mission accomplished".

I will also note that in Tweety's "town hall" meeting someplace in
FreeperLand, some pinhead got up and made the statement "Well, the
insurgents are really stupid see... because if they would only STOP
FIGHTING then we would leave - Bush said so" and freepers in the
background started laughing.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:21 AM
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3. That was in Nashville
The high point was still when Tweety told the geezer that the Schiavo autopsy showed her brain was atrophied and the geezer STILL said God is the one who decides on vegetative states, we don't have the technology. :crazy:

Anyway, Nashville went Kerry and isn't it interesting that Tweety didn't ask the good Bush Christians what they think of that.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:47 AM
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6. I have never seen anyone ask him why, if we
are leaving, would we be building 14 military bases in Iraq? Someone needs to ask that question. I think we would all like an answer. I will just bet that half the fricking country is not even aware of it!
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:09 AM
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11. Exactly !
There is no plan to leave. Ever.


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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:10 AM
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2. Link?
That's amazing.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:34 AM
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4. Here's the link...so excited I forgot it...
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/28/asb.01.html

I harbor a special suspicion for Bill Schneider, the "political analyst" for CNN. He's an American Enterprise Institute (read educated WingNut) "scholar" and a real trickster/simpleton. He once said, so-and-so lost the election for one important reason, he didn't get enough votes...haha.

Anyway, * got creamed with his own crowd. When you read the transcript (about 20% down once you hit the top of the link) you notice that Schneider gives the sample make up at the end of the story. I heard it live and, half way paying attention, it seemed like * hit it out of the part until the 50% Republican sample came up and I tracked back to 46% approve of the speech previously. Anyway, he's screwed, IMHO.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:40 AM
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5. Thanks for the link
Hi, autorank!:hi: I am always a little suspicious of Bill Schneider but it seems he was pretty fair about the poll. Hope he wasn't crying too!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:13 AM
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8. Carla in Ca, taking a break from the revolution?
Yeah, Schneider is a troll but Ithink the word's out...* must go. I think that's why he cried at the end of his speech, he probably just got the word, "George, You're Fired!"

Keep up the good work out there. You guys are the BEST!
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:05 AM
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7. Look what that creep Breitbart said about MoveOn.org and similar interests
BROWN: Amy, thank you. Andrew, last word literally, 10 seconds. Do you think the president bought himself six months?

BREITBART: No, I don't. I think he bought himself another two weeks, and then he needs to declare battle against MoveOn.org and people who have defined victory downwards. I mean, it's been a disaster the last few months.

--

So, if public opinion about Iraq continues to decline, and we can't stay the course as Bush would like, then it's ATTACK INTERNAL OPPONENTS?

What a disgusting turd of a man!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:23 AM
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9. He was just awful, wasn't he.
He probably left the studio, went straight home, and got in a big bath tub with his fore-and-aft hat to launch a big toy ship crusade against the infidel rubber duckies he's kept since his youth. These guys are so simliar, Rovish I call it. Kinda fat, pasty, thining hair, and a clear disinterest in living creatures.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:24 AM
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10. LOL, a very big turd
scary how desperate they are becoming; honestly I would laugh, grab the popcorn and enjoy the HELL out if it were it not for one fact - our troops, and innocent Iraqi civilians, are being killed daily. :(
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:02 AM
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12. Smells like LBJ, Spring of '68 to me !?
His last refuge was Military Bases,too.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:30 AM
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13. The whole thing looks like Viet Nam...
Bayh: we can still win.
Biden: criticism of the war ultimately hurts the troops

And those are our guys!

Did you notice, there was very little applause, hardly any.

This will be worse than Viet Nam. Bush can't leave as quickly as Johnson. "Our long national nightmare" begins again...only it's a "screaming bummer."
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