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deceased Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:41 PM
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lesser evil?
ive been reading these forums for awhile, everytime i try to contribute i have been attacked and then banned. as a result i lurk. i used to believe the democrats were the lesser of the two evils, and have allways supported them. but lately i cant bring myself to do it. one of my problems i guess is that my political ideology doesnt fit anyone place on the politcial spectrum.

i am 100% against any form of gun control
i believe protecting liberty should be a priority over national security and the safety or well being of a majority or any one group or individual..this would include freedom of speech, religion, property rights, ect.
i support public education and welfare programs
i support legalizing cannabis
i believe in states rights...to a point, i dont believe states have the power to overide the u.s. constitution
i believe government should be able to be held accountable for its actions.
i support a flat tax..where everyone is taxed a single fixed percentage...with no exceptions
i support fiscal responsibility, small central government
i am for secured boarders, and against dual language public education
i believe the words 'under god' on u.s. currency and in the pledge of alliegence is a violation of the basic principles our nation was founded on
i support protecting the enviorment over the wellbeing of corperate intrests.
i could go on.

where do i fit in? its like im standing alone outside the entire political process. im not a libertarian, maybe im a conservative, im not a member of the green party...a liberal? i read the bullshit people post about hillary clinton, and john kerry...do they represent the democratic leadership? a religious fundamentalist and a shill. john kerry is the man that failed all of you, he told you he would fight for every single vote and then ran at the first hint of trouble.

' the left' of the supreme court rules that property rights no longer exist. do you really believe that public use means the same as public well being? i dont. at the same time 'the right' is overriding one constitutional amendment after another, it seems like 'the left' is picking the ones up they missed...some one name the constitutional amendments we still have left...cause im pretty sure 1,2,4,5,6,8,9,10,11,14,15 are all ready gone.

i try to listen to progressive radio? air america....but the crap they spew doesnt even stand up to the slightest of scrutiny. they are just as mindless as bill orielly and micheal savage.

its all fucking hopeless. if i cant find a proper forum, i may as well just switch my DU bookmark to cruel.com

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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:03 PM
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1. Where is your brain?
If you are not going to support your contentions, specifically implying both sides are bad; then please do us a small favor...

Don't post...

Liberal doesn't mean the opposite of conservative. It means we are free to find the truth and your opinions have nothing to do with that. The democrat association is not because we hold them in better regards than republicans or any other party. We democrats have chosen our associations through the fog of BS because we know the party does not define us.

Now I am done speculating because I am fed up thinking about it. The last 6 months I have been tracking the various Internet systems. Your post is classic example of the BS used to confuse and dissemble reality. It's so classic that your reply to me is more than likely already written and that it is going to say I am a nut job conspiracy theorist.

You know what, I am in good company last night Hannity was saying the same about Sen. Charles Rangel to his face. When he said that * Co. started their war without authority from congress. Your not fooling anyone anymore and when a TV host can call a senator a liar with out consequence we live durring a very sad time of kiss up and kick down politics.


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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:20 PM
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2. I actually agree with a lot of your positions, and I've never been banned
I'm not for gun control. In fact, I own several guns. (Of course, no one is really 100% against gun control. Do you really believe everyone should be able to purchase a .50-cal. machine gun?)

I also think our individual rights as outlined in the Constitution are more important than national security.

I fully support public education and a social safety net

I support legalized cannibis and decriminalization of other drugs.

I believe in states rights, per the 10th amendment.

I think anyone with half a brain supports government being held accountable for its actions. Heck, that's what voting should be for in a perfect world.

No, I don't support a flat tax. We differ there.

I certainly support fiscal responsibility. I think the most bloated part of our budget is defense, and it needs to be cut drastically.

The words "Under God" don't bother me, but I can see where it could be a problem for some people.

Secured borders are definitely a good thing, though I think we'd have to debate dual-language education.

And I am certianly for environmental regulation of corporations.



So, I guess my only question is, why is it you're constantly in trouble if I never am? We seem to agree on just about everything.
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