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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:08 AM
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Matthews "Bush perpertrating the myth"
go to http://www.dembloggers.com/ and watch Dean Part I - 4:47 into the interview Chris Matthews slips up BIG TIME and tells us what he is really thinking!

Woohoo!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:20 AM
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1. Without following the link...I'm deducing that this myth is that
Bush is still hung up on Iraq attacking us on 9/11?

I don't personally see how he can get away asking for Americans to sacrifice further using that non-fact as an argument. It's like saying, "I made a mistake, now you must die to save my reputation and legacy. Authenticate my presidency by believing my bullshit."
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:36 AM
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2. be afraid, Backlash......be very afraid
they CAN'T pull this off and rest assured they are conferring right now on what do do about it
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:50 AM
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3. I can feel their desperation. All they need is one more
catastrophic attack to keep dissent in check. They provide the crisis, and the media and right-wing voters will provide the misguided pressure.

I see more stolen elections and conscription in the future.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:04 AM
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4. I'm not sure another attack would work
how many stupid conservatives have you heard saying WE HAVEN'T BEEN ATTACKED SINCE 9/11 - as if the morons thought letting bush have a pass on the biggest security breach in American history was a good idea. People are starting to wake up and they are not at all pleased with what they are seeing.

GOP and stolen elections go hand in hand so I have no doubt they'll be pulling more Diebold magic.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:25 AM
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6. I don't see how they can get away with conscription
without something more imminent threatening the U.S. Right now the world is waiting for us to recognize that we have egg on our face. Actually, I think they're being quite civil giving us this opportunity to find a way to express our Mea Culpas. Unfortunately, it's probably a waste of time because I don't think Bush will accept political defeat. The Repubs have been living in their own bubble since the Newt years, and I'm afraid that they won't let that go.

The only thing that will turn the tide in a peaceful & favorable manner, is if the moderates in the Republican party start taking on the conservatives. And you need moderates who are not tainted from their previous association with Bush. In other words, no Powell, no McCain and no Whitman.

If not them, then us. There will be a sloppy exchange of accusations from people on the street. Expect uncomfortable moments at work around the watercooler, expect your kid getting blackballed on the soccer fields because of your previous political opinions (both dem or repub); and expect the wedge between right and left to get deeper.

All of this because we don't really have a strong, respected media who can challenge Bush or the right-wing conservative machinery.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:22 AM
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16. Actually, I suspect that Powell and McCain and Whitman
may be the best suited to make the stand, sort of like Nixon being the only one who could go to China and make it stick...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:44 PM
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17. the moderates could pull it off
if the Dems are not afraid to speak now and go against bush inc, the GOP mods shouldn't be either. Alas I have lost all respect for anyone connected at all to the neocon pieces of shit currently running the country - they've been marching in goose-step for a long, long time and they have a lot of blood on their hands
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:02 AM
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15. The problem is...
...we were attacked repeatedly after 9/11. But nobody remembers the anthrax attacks on Dem Senators, media figures and others that went on for weeks after the attacks.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:45 PM
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18. that NYC plane crash was suspicious too
that sure dropped off the radar quickly although I wonder if perhaps it was because too many people on the plane were not....er.....lilly white. I know how f***ing racist the g.d media is.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:28 AM
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8. Yes - he was trying to tie the two together ... again...
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FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:55 AM
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13. That's basically *it* in a nutshell. Good summary. n/t
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:05 AM
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5. i just listened to the MATTHEWS-DEN PART I video.
...it has such a sound of a dialogue between two men who are not trying to spin one another that it is actually refreshing to hear ... even when the subject is the pain of factually facing the consequences we have earned as a result of bush putting us in Iraq.


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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:27 AM
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7. Dean excelled in that interview.
It was heartening to watch it again.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:09 AM
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11. Somebody here on DU last night
said that Dean sucked on Hardball and let Tweety spin him. It's amazing what 2 different people can see by watching the same thing.
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:50 AM
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9. the correct verb would be

"perpetuating." One does not "perpetrate" a myth, not even a professional perpetrator like Bush.

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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:03 AM
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10. Yeah, but he "corrected" himself. "myth" was cut off by him.
Pretty telling, though. Tweety is obviously changing his tune on Iraq.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:49 AM
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12. Chris Matthews asked a good question
How come democratic leaders like John Kerry and Joe Biden completely support this war, but just have nitpicky problems with the management of it while you have been against it all along?

I'd like to know the answer to that too?
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:55 AM
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14. Pretty surprised also
How he let Dean speak.

This is the same guy whose known for shouting over everyone and not letting them finish.
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