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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:48 AM
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Backing for Bush on Iraq is gone, local veterans say
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=3166

"He's running scared," said Giblock, 63, a former Post 2500 member who lives in Anchorage, Ala. "His poll numbers are so low, he's got to say something, but the support is gone. It's gone. I don't think there's anybody in here who's behind him."

From Bob Artman, 79, a World War II veteran: "I got a bad taste in my mouth. Every time I read about a guy getting killed, I tear up. I didn't feel this way at the beginning, but now I just don't see an end to it."

From Ted Anderson, 73, a Korean War veteran and former police chief in New Jersey: "We still have thousands of troops in the in Korea 50 years after the fact. It's going to be the same thing 50 years from now in Iraq."

Said Artman: "I'm a registered Democrat, but even people in his party are now questioning things. They don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. ... So many people in this country need things: People are starving, people need health care and medicine. But here we are taking care of people all over the world. How about starting at home?"

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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:52 AM
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1. Take that Shrubya.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:53 AM
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2. Those pictures should be on the front page
of every newspaper and magazine in this country. The only people that support this war are cowards that will not fight it and those that are profiteering from it.
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alterfurz Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:57 AM
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3. "on the bloody morning after...
...one tin soldier rides away"
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:58 AM
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4. I was at the VA yesterday.
A majority of the nam era guys were anti war/* from the inception. But now all the Korean war guys are down on it too.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:06 AM
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5. Why Do These WWII and Korean War Vets Hate America??
:sarcasm:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:10 AM
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6. I don't know why people can't be more blunt about it. The war and the
continuation of war is profitable to a few. Those soldiers are a resource to the corporations making money. Particularly Halliburtion and all their brother companies. It is so transparent that Cheney and his pnac gang masterminded this on behalf of the corporations with the blessing of all the reverends, societies, foundations, think tanks, and organizations. Using our soldiers for a corporate war is done by revving up the patriotic juices from WWII.

It is all transparent.

Using our soldiers is the same as outsourcing when approached from the profit angle.

Why can't we open our eyes.

Paper. Hand counting. And the elimination of corporations paying for the pollsters, telling them what the numbers should be, and calling the winners is our only way out.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:24 AM
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8. Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us about the military-industrial
complex. His words were chillingly prophetic. I wonder if the current corporate fascists that control this government understand that without true democracy in this country they will have no economy left to plunder?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:10 AM
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7. Well he DID SAY he envisioned a "valley of peace".


He said it right in his closing statements in the first debate with Kerry.

Nobody in America can claim that Bush misled them about the war being a lot of "HARD WORK", that would lead to the "VALLEY OF PEACE". Maybe they just didn't think hard enough at the time about what that valley of peace remark of his was all about.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:36 AM
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9. This vet is certainly against the invasion and occupation of a
sovereign country. Here's a coupla more links for you:

(snipped from an email I sent to my address book last month)

<snip>

You do not understand the price our soldiers are being
asked to pay if you ignore the 'unpleasantness.' Take
a few moments to honor our soldiers by viewing their
sacrifices.

It took a Freedom Of Information Act to pry these
pictures out of our government:
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/gallery.htm
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB152/index.htm

The following URL shows a few of our 12,000 wounded
and maimed soldiers. CAUTION- contains some VERY
graphic pictures:
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/gallery.htm

<end snip>

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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:53 AM
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Misconception: we're taking care of Iraqis
yes a lot of money is going into Iraq, but it is not for building, but for destroying and enriching the repugs friends.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:53 AM
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10. Misconception: we're taking care of Iraqis
yes a lot of money is going into Iraq, but it is not for building, but for destroying and enriching the repugs friends.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:20 AM
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11. I think Stan Goff said it best:
Bring the troops home. He said that the troops are in fact, OUR troops. They are our forces, and we have the right to bring them home.
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