Another explanation for the 9 stripes in the Ft. Bragg backdrop *pic*

[DS1]

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Mr. Slayer's theory



My theory. A designer overly obsessed with the 1 to 1.6 (approx) Golden Ratio laid out the backdrop, and saw that it was more aesthetically pleasing in his designer's mind to expand the dimensions of the flag to so that the blue stars area ends on one of the main junctions in the Golden Rectangle.

Hey, I just know a Golden Rectangle when I see one. :shrug:

[brainshrub]

1. But what about the 11 stars at the top of the picture?

Granted, there could be more stars past the top of the posted picture. Does anyone have a wider shot of the president on the stage?

[Puzzler]

2. God... I swear...

... that those look like smiley faces behind Bush.


-P

[yurbud]

3. I hadn't seen the 9/11 clearly until you posted that first pic

Hillbilly Hitler art:



Blog:

[liberal N proud]

4. Subliminal Message referring to 9/11

9 Stripes and 11 stars.
If you think I am nuts, remember who we are talking about here. KKKarl Rove and his band of thieves who will stop at nothing and I mean nothing to drive their agenda.

[DS1]

5. Where do you get 11 stars?

and I'm just throwing out a logical explanation, I'm not trying to debunk anything, but all ideas should be explored

[liberal N proud]

10. The stars above the flags and blue smiley faces

There are 11 in the grey header, unless the picture only captures 11?

[tridim]

6. Yea, but the golden ratio appears everywhere naturally

and even by mistake. I once picked out three random colors for painting my walls that turned out to be exact ratios of phi. Even Bush's monkey inspired facial features follow the ratio.

Even if the flags do spell out 9/11, what's the point? Bush said 9/11 a dozen times during the speech. Nothing subliminable about that.

[DS1]

8. It appears in nature naturally, but not steel and aluminum backdrops

with plasma displays. Those are designed by humans

[tridim]

9. I just gave an example.. My paint colors

I'm saying it's natural for our brains to see and use the ratio subconsciously.

[DS1]

11. Yet, it's not natural for me to set the selection rectangle in photoshop

to 1 to 1.6, is it?

[tridim]

16. Photoshop isn't a brain

:) Then again, you could choose 'constrained aspect ratio' and type in the numbers.

I have no idea where this argument is going. I'm just saying that even a dirt stupid Bush propaganda stage designer could easily create a backdrop with those proportions by mistake and not by design.

[LiberalFighter]

33. It would reinforce the subliminal message

[XemaSab]

7. And I know a smirking chimp when I see one

n/t

[LizW]

12. Good point

The golden ratio is supposedly pleasing and attractive to the eye, and it stands to reason that a set designer trained in art would use it whether intentionally or not.

I looked back at other backdrops from Bush's speeches, and they have used the narrowed, 9-stripe flags before.

I still don't completely discount the possibility that they intended the subliminal 9-11 in the flags, though. They put LOTS of thought into these things, and I don't put anything past them.

[DS1]

13. Thanks

That's all I'm trying to get across, I wouldn't put subliminal messages past them either, but it's worth pointing out that the ratios match

[gmoney]

15. It would be easier just to stretch the stripes

Put the full flag in, but just extend the stripes a bit if you're looking for "Golden Mean"

Maybe they're not meant to be flags, just "Freedom Symbols" or something, and they were planning on setting fire to them later.

The flag thing that always throws me is when I see a flag graphic and the stars are on the right. They do this on military patches, airplanes, etc. I guess the rule is that the stars always go towards the front of whatever they're on, but it always looks wrong to me.

[Brotherjohn]

14. WHY would you use a 9-striped flag? That's all I'm asking.

WHY in the would you use a 9-striped flag, when we have a perfectly good one already?

Could this be considered a form of desecrating the flag?
:sarcasm:

[harlinchi]

17. Wasn't that 1 to 1.6 ration made much of in "The Da Vinci Code"?

I seem to remember that ratio being a large part of the story...

[sendero]

18. Yeah..

.... possible. But why not just use flags that are about 20% smaller? Then the golden ratio AND the proper flag could be achieved.

[quaoar]

19. Forget ratios

Why would any set designer alter the flag?

What is behind Bush is no longer the flag of the United States of America.

[Coexist]

24. I know - I though maybe they were deleting the blue states

myself!

[tamtam]

20. Past speeches

Is this the first backdrop with the supposed 9/11 message? The idiot has given more than this speech trying to sell his illegal war. Maybe we can do a little research and check past backdrops. I for one wouldn't put anything past them. I really don't understand why they would try to sneak this in though. Bush mentioned 9/11 several times during that dumb speech.

[quaoar]

21. How about the side by side flags

representing the Twin Towers?

[thereismore]

22. I buy that one. completely nt

[Blackthorn]

23. You can also make out another 9 out of the smiley faces...

Starting from bottom left, up diagonally to the right and curling around. The flags could be another 11, so there's two 9/11's in the background.

[Ediacara]

25. I hate to ask

But has anyone bothered to write the White House and ask why they're using a 9-striped flag? Not that their explanation would necessarily be truthful, but it would be interesting to hear nonetheless.

[procopia]

26. am I crazy?

Shouldn't the field of stars be on the other side of the flag, to our right?

[procopia]

28. yes I am

Flag should always be displayed with field of stars in the left hand corner, even when vertical. Seems backwards, though.

[Quakerfriend]

27. To me, a big part of the subliminal message is in the smiley

faces. What are they anyway??

[DS1]

30. The "Smiley Faces" are the Seal of the United States Army

just like it's been for 50 odd years - or probably more

[quaoar]

31. At that distance

you cannot make out details of the Army seal, which I suppose is why some folks called it a smiley face.

[underpants]

29. That really wouldn't surprise me

Good job

[ComerPerro]

32. Please stop thinking rationally

[DS1]

35. _

:D

[emcguffie]

34. Is Golden Mean the reason I like A4 paper better than ours? n/t

[DS1]

39. No, but here's more than you'll ever need to know about paper dimensions

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html

[geckosfeet]

36. 9 stripes,,, 11 stars,,,,,, These people are obsessed.

[Blackthorn]

37. ...

I don't think its so much to tie Iraq to 9/11, as much as to bring 9/11 back to the forefront of the public mind, as least subconsciously. Shrub's crowning glory was lapping up the attention after 9/11, and it was this that "legitimised" his presidency. I guess the theory is that the more people think about 9/11, the more likely they are to remember the images of that day, and those include Bush standing in the rubble acting like he knew what he was doing, like he was in charge. They're invoking images of past events to colour your perceptions of him now.

[DS1]

38. Or it could be that the Army's official seal shows nine stripes

and arguable 11 stars...