Preliminary Bomb Forensics appearing......

[MsTryska]

LONDON - The bombs that destroyed three London Underground cars and a double-decker bus were each lighter than 10 pounds and could be carried in a backpack, police said Friday. An explosives expert said they were likely crude homemade devices set off with a simple timer.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050708/ap_on_re_eu/bombings_investigation_5;_ylt=AgGhf5rGDSoGZYLpyn8bW9.9Q5gv;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

and a comparison of various bombs over the years:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050708/ap_on_re_eu/bombings_investigation_glance_1;_ylt=Amaj0.TypJTuU1XAEbGH1qVbbBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--



extrapolate at your leisure....

[maxsolomon]

1. domestic terror

muslim british citizens. natives, even. similar to whomever armed the shoe bomber. possibly supplied & funded internationally.

my gut feeling. i'm probably wrong.

[havocmom]

2. My gut says any info will point in one direction

but we should look in another direction.

London blasts sure took over page one. Who benefits from other stories being buried?

[MsTryska]

3. well i certainly agree that it's domestic...

i'm not sure why they keep saying it's the hallmark of Al Qaueda - this is nothing like true Al Quaeda bombings - far too crude and not enough collateral damage. (thank god).

[XemaSab]

7. I think al Qaeda is code for

"We have no freakin' clue who did this."

Seriously.

[MN ChimpH8R]

14. Yep

Al Qaeda is just a brand name. Any disaffected bent arrow Muslim fundie can claim to be Al Qaeda and ChimpCo will believe that UBL was personally behind it. Easier than thinking things through. Thankfully, Scotland Yard seems less political than the FBI/CIA.

[XemaSab]

15. Al Qaeda isn't even a brand name

it's not even a generic label.

It's the same claim as "low fat" or "great tasting."

Meaningless blather.

[Toots]

18. Do you think they truly believe Bin laden was behind 9-11?

They needed a scapegoat and they needed one quickly. Bin Laden was already enemy number 1 left over from the last two administrations. I am always amazed at how quickly Americans believe what the government tells them. I found it interesting that they knew conclusively it was Bin Laden that perpetrated the events within only a few hours. We will never know the truth of the matter I am afraid. I don't know why we just didn't say it was the bogeyman and be done with it.

[XemaSab]

21. Exactly

I mean, come on, a 7 foot tall billionaire who directs an international network of crime and terror from a cave which the whole US military is conveniently unable to locate?

He may as well live in an island shaped like a skull and have a huge persian cat which he strokes constantly while giving threatening televised addresses in which he demands ONE MILLION DOLLARS and every single other cartoon/bond/austin powers cliche.

[kentuck]

17. Al Qaeda is an idea...

As someone stated in another thread.

[JohnnyBoots]

19. Blame it on the "Boogyman"

[saskatoon]

10. probably wrong ?

you are Probably Right in your analysis, kinda outside the box as to mainstream but makes sense to me

[SemperEadem]

4. what happened to Islamic terrorists blowing themselves up

with the bombs this time? Have they decided that a glorious afterlife isn't worth a little momentary pain? Interesting how they've dropped that little tactic this time around.

In my gut, I don't think this is aQ's work. But that's me.

[maxsolomon]

6. madrid wasn't suicide bombers

whatever works is what they go with.

but it does make one think they're not "professional al queda".

[SemperEadem]

9. never mind

whoever did it has no soul.

[formernaderite]

12. Is it me, or do they seem more cowardly and unprincipled when they don't

blow themselves up as well.

Don't anyone jump on me by claiming I am endorsing bombings or suicide bombings....I'm not.

[Imajika]

20. I agree...

I've always thought the "suicide bombers are cowards" line is unbelievably stupid.

A person willing to blow themselves up for their beliefs is no coward. Japanese Kamakazi's were not cowards when they rammed their planes into American ships during WWII, they were braver than most. Islamic radicals willing to explode themselves in the fight for their cause are anything but cowardly.

Are the current crop of Muslim suicide bombers misguided? Sure, I believe so. Are they wrong in killing innocent civilians? Again, I'd argue yes. Do we need to take this threat seriously and arrest and/or destroy terrorist cells? Yup. But for the Islamic radicals, this is all out war. It's not like the United States doesn't kill hundreds of thousands of civilians in wars. We've routinely razed entire cities to the ground to "break the will" of our enemies. Are those directing the suicide bombers really acting so differently?

Planting bombs isn't necessarily cowardly or unpricipled, but it certainly doesnt require the commitment to the cause that suicide bombing does.

Imajika

[Al-CIAda]

5. John Scarlett-

On May 6, British Prime Minister Tony Blair announced that the new head of the British intelligence service MI-6 will be John Scarlett. The choice immediately caused protests from British political opposition leaders. Scarlett was the author and stubborn defender of the now-totally-discredited and artificially sexed-up "Iraqi WMD" report issued by the Blair government in support of the US-UK war drive.

[napi21]

8. That doesn't sound like Al Qaeda to me.

I don't want to say they couldn't use some crude devices, but it's not their MO.

I think we should wait and let the investigators determine the answers. Americans are always so quick to jump to conclusions!!!

[SemperEadem]

11. really... remember OK bombing

[alcibiades_mystery]

13. Not exactly al Qaeda style, is it?

Just saying.

I think this will end up being a very amateurish operation, possibly even Columbine-style deranged kids.

[MsTryska]

16. kick!

:kick: