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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:45 PM
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Poll question: How Enthusiastic would you be if Hillary is the '08 Nominee?
How high or low would be your personal enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton leading the 2008 Democratic ticket?

0-10 lowest-highest.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:49 PM
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1. Not my pick but I am always enthusiastic for any and all Dems.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:50 PM
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2. This poll will yield your answer....
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Emerson Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:19 AM
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47. I will never forgive Clark
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 03:19 AM by Emerson
after what he did to Dean and the country in the primary. He's one of the few candidates that would have me voting green.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:51 PM
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3. My enthusiasm would approximate coma.
There could be a few worse nominees -- Zell Miller, maybe Joe Biden; but I can't get even slightly fired up about Ms. Clinton. Not at all.
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:54 PM
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4. MEGA DITTO'S ocelot....
:banghead: What are they thinking?
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:35 PM
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13. DOUBLE MEGA DITTOS citizen and ocelot....
I will not support Mrs. Clinton.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:59 PM
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5. Why not Joe Lieberman?
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 09:00 PM by Cascadian
I have decided that I cannot support somebody or anybody that gave Bush the green light to invade Iraq nor can I support anybody who insists on keeping our young men and women in Iraq by fighting a "smarter war". Forget it. Ain't gonna work on me this time!


John
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:56 PM
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16. Total withdraw or nothin...
....that's the only thing that will hurt the PNAC crew, and that's the only reason we will stay. We must fix what we broke bullshit ain't gonna work for me!

Get suma dat GOOD MONEY!!! BLING, BLING!!! :bounce:
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:06 PM
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6. I like Hillary Clinton ("always" have) ...
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 09:13 PM by etherealtruth
... inarguably I don't like every single thing she has done. Fine. I'm entitled to my opinion, but I had to post because I became confused and voted in the 0-1 category :blush: when I really wanted to make a more enthusiastic vote.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:07 PM
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7. I like and admire her
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:53 PM
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15. BINGO...
... It's just not her time.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:08 PM
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8. My enthusiasm? 0
:eyes:
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:14 PM
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9. Not too enthusiastic
If she's our candidate come November 2008, I'll vote for her, but I think we have quite a few men and women who would make better candidates than Hillary.
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BlakeB Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:27 PM
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11. Exactly.
That basically sums up my feelings on the situation.
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:59 PM
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17. If were gonna run Hillary...
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 09:59 PM by TheGoodCitizen
...may as well throw Kerry back in there too, NOT!

I'll vote Green before I vote for another Kerry or anyone similar.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:23 PM
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10. I think she'd be a very capable President.
I don't agree with her on everything, and she's not my favorite, but I think she would do a good job in office. I think she's smart and savvy, and I would be glad to call her President.
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BlakeB Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:27 PM
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12. I'd be glad to call her "President"
but I think there are better nominees.
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:02 PM
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19. "I think she'd be a very capable President"
PLEASE DONT GET ME WRONG....

I totally agree with that statement, although I don't believe she is capable of winning the race... but who can with the F'ed up fake ass voting in this country!

"If I were dictator it would be a heck of a lot easier" ~Boosh
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:42 PM
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14. In my opinion the best choice...
And the most capable politician!!!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:59 PM
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18. At this point, we don't need any appeasers of Republicans
We need someone who has a strong alternative vision, something who will INSPIRE the electorate with a simply stated platform that clearly contains benefits for ordinary people.

As long as we keep running candidates whose main claim seems to be, "You've heard of me, I'm not 'too liberal,' I'm 'pro-business,' and I'll go along with the Republicans much of the time except when they're really excessively nasty," we'll keep losing.
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:05 PM
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21. Then our only option is....
... of course, DEAN!!!!!!!!!! :applause: :woohoo: :applause:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:19 PM
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23. Or someone who isn't even on the national radar yet
:shrug:
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:27 PM
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25. ME???
oh, please oh, please....

if Boosh can do it, I know I can.

Although, I am not a very good liar... hell, neither is he so how cares! :patriot:
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 10:43 AM
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31. Dean ain't running
Wes Clark will be.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:25 AM
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43. AMEN!
Wake up Democrats!


John
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JHBowden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:04 PM
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20. I don't like it when the Republicans attack her, but
with respect to many of her issue positions, she tries too hard to be Bush lite.

My support is lukewarm, i.e. a '6'
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:13 PM
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22. I chose 0-1....
...but that's 'cause plain old zero wasn't available. We could do MUCH better than Hillary. If she's the nominee we'll lose potential crossover votes as well as the votes of lefties like myself.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:23 PM
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24. agreed
Voting for Hillary would be once again throwing our vote in the toilet. Hillary is and will never be a viable candidate. Please stop thinking with your hearts and use your head on this one.
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:28 PM
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27. Excellent point....
...important to think with the brain and not the heart!
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:27 PM
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26. I suspect Hillary will be more or less like Bill, mediocre
Bill only looks good in relation to the disasters before and after him. Bill Clinton; NAFTA, WTO, Telacom bill, expanded death penalty, welfare deform, just for starters.
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:32 PM
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28. Bill's really been pissin me off these days....
...he use to be my fav, but not anymore ;(

He's been hangin with the Bush Crime Family so much here lately...

I had to go out and buy a permanent chin strap for my :tinfoilhat:
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:33 PM
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29. She'll be a find President
I'm looking forward to the historical moment.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:58 AM
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30. Certainly not Bill's charisma, political brilliance nor BIG Dawg's agenda!
She would be stifled at every turn...So then what?
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Tommymac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 10:48 AM
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32. 2006 Comes first...
after that I will spend energy on 2008...until then I am not enthusiastic about anyone.

Hell, we may not be allowed to run anyone in 2008 if we don't win back the Congress in 2006.....
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 11:53 AM
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33. Not at all until she publicly states that the war is wrong and calls for
a real investigation into 9-11. She is too much of a warmonger. Anyone who hasn't the courage now to state the war was unjustified and demand its end is a participant in the crime. And I'm not talking about those wishy-washy wimps who complain that the war was run badly. It was WRONG, both morally and legally.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:07 PM
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34. She's gone to far to the Right, she is polarizing...
she is a SENATOR from a NE state (fercripessake, have we learned NOTHING????).

As much as I like and respect her, personally, I hope she chooses our good over her own ego, and sits '08 out.

TC
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:18 PM
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35. There's a reason I have a yella dawg as my avatar.
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 12:18 PM by blondeatlast
That's all I'm gonna say about any forecasted nominee at this point.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:22 PM
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36. Zero. It's always been a bunch of right wing nonsense that she's running
for President.

She's never ran. She's never said she was running.

They do it to paint her as power mad, and to take away from her accomplishments.

She is the right wing media machine's bogey to which they've dedicated much of their behavioral conditioning.

We've got to be on making the case for her in the 2006 Senate race against Rudy.

The GOP/RNC are planning on building their national 06 strategy around the Hillary verses Rudy race for the Senate.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:30 PM
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37. I love democrats
I especially love Hillary Clinton, Wesley Clark, Dennis Kucinich, John Kerry and John Edwards. See, Democrats are groovey (ok, that dates me), but my point is made, I hope.

Please, please, don't tear down Hillary. She is our brightest hope right now in so many ways. It stands to reason that they will all be discussed and discussed and discussed and discussed. I hope we can do it with dignity. After all, our party is inclusive and better than theirs, right??
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:36 PM
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38. I really don't think a senator can win a presidential election.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:37 PM
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39. I may not even vote /nt
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:44 PM
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40. 0-1
She is not the answer.

This country desperately needs "new blood for no blood".
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:46 PM
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41. I would vote third-party...
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 01:47 PM by election_2004
If Senator Clinton is coronated as the nominee by Democratic Party elitists and the MSM, I would definitely take a look at the Green, Libertarian, and Natural Law candidates, as well as anyone who might be running as a pure Independent (but NOT Nader!!!)

And I honestly can't say that about many Democratic candidates right now. People such as Clark, Warner, Edwards, and Richardson aren't my first-choices, but I would vote for any of them in a heartbeat for the General Election.

I'll also be living in California, so it's not like my piddly little vote will tilt California's 55 electoral votes AWAY FROM Hillary.
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BornaDem Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:00 PM
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42. 0 - 1
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:29 AM
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44. I admire Hillary, and we NEED a female president, but....
she cannot win right now. We need to quit throwing this idea around. Hillary is not going to be the woman to break that glass ceiling.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:41 AM
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45. Hillary is a Neocon enabler.
Like Kerry, she supported the Iraq War. She has also been sounding somewhat slightly conservtive lately in regards to issues like Abortion and Iraq. I am tired of these people getting "coronated" by members of the DLC. The Democratic Party blew it BLEW IT when Kerry was nominated! It is just as bad as Bush getting selected by the Supreme Court. The Democratic Party needs a serious overhaul. I only hope Howard Dean and the millions of supporters he has (I am one of them!) can achieve this before 2006.


John
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:00 AM
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46. I will not be "enthusiastic" for anyone who enables corporatists/PNAC.
Give me a candidate who gives a shit about the best interests of America, not Chevron, MBNA, or the Likud party.
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