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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:42 AM
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BBC: UK-Bombing 'Exercises' Same Time as Real Attack, same as 9/11
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 04:19 AM by evolvenow
Pay attention, this is from BBC and the Guardian. Read and Listen to the clip.This is a developing story. Pay attention to the pattern. Huge Drill + Actual Attack.

Exercise Atlantic Blue: 7/7 Rehearsal?

from the Guardian:


Anti-terror drill revealed soft targets in London

"A massive anti-terror exercise carried out last April to find out how safe London's transport systems were from attack raised concern over the vulnerability of passengers, The Observer can reveal.

Washington sources have revealed that the biggest transatlantic counter-terrorism exercise since 9/11 - which included 'bombs' being placed on buses and explosives left on the London underground - raised fears over the vulnerability of 'soft targets' in the capital.

The anti-terror drill, codenamed Exercise Atlantic Blue, involved 10,000 personnel in the UK and 2,500 in the UK. It was billed as the biggest test of the anti-terror defences of both the UK and the US and was designed to improve security. The exercise featured simulated explosive, biological and chemical attacks and, in the case of London, concentrated on testing security weaknesses in the transport system."


Another drill...

"...A full-scale mock attack was staged in September 2003 to give emergency services the chance to rehearse: lessons learnt from it, including the need for specially adapted trolleys to use in rescuing passengers from narrow tunnels, were put into place last week. Firefighters have also been trained to drive tube trains, so that if a driver were killed they would be able to move a train to the safety of a platform; the trains hit last week were too badly disabled to be moved..."

more...
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1525247,00.html
--UPDATE--

From Continuity Forum:
In a March 17, 2005 interview Home Office Minister Hazel Blears was asked:

Question: "What happens if a terrorist incident occurs during the exercise?"

Answer: "In the event of a major incident of any sort a decision would be taken to halt the exercise. There will be no impact on the level of policing or security within London during the week of the exercise."
http://www.continuityforum.org/news/atlanticblue






London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at
Same Time as Real Attack
Culpability cover scenario echoes 9/11 wargames

A consultancy agency with government and police
connections was running an exercise for an unnamed
company that revolved around the London Underground
being bombed at the exact same times and locations as
happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.

On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening
of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing
Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a
'crisis management' advice company, better known to
you and I as a PR firm. Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official,
working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch. Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was
running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.

The transcript is as follows.

POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually
running an exercise for a company of over a thousand
people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off
precisely at the railway stations where it happened
this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of
my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an
exercise to see how you would cope with this and it
happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this
morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious
reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're
listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full
of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and
so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision
that this is the real one and so we went through the
correct drills of activating crisis management
procedures to jump from slow time to quick time
thinking and so on.

snip<

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bom...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:48 AM
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1. All right, you have my TOTAL attention. Please, another source.
The "exercises" here on 9/11 were just an awful collateral event. If there were "exercises" in London as "Prison Planet" describes, then we're in a whole new ball game. This needs a separate source however.

I look forward to one.
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:57 AM
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3. Culhavoc excellent post: Guardian-Exercise Atlantic Blue: 7/7 Rehearsal? +
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 04:00 AM by evolvenow
Thanks to Culhavoc !

Why does DU keep locking this VERY IMPORTANT STORY? It needs to be researched as it is just developing, so keep looking for links. It was aired on BBC Radio, which is a very valid source, and then it vanished quickly, according to people that heard it in the UK.

The event was horrible and if this is true, better reopen 9/11 and lock the WAR CRIMINALS IN THIS ADMINISTRATION up in the Hague! Too many innocent people have died. Please keep following this story.



Exercise Atlantic Blue: 7/7 Rehearsal?

from the Guardian:


Anti-terror drill revealed soft targets in London

"A massive anti-terror exercise carried out last April to find out how safe London's transport systems were from attack raised concern over the vulnerability of passengers, The Observer can reveal.

Washington sources have revealed that the biggest transatlantic counter-terrorism exercise since 9/11 - which included 'bombs' being placed on buses and explosives left on the London underground - raised fears over the vulnerability of 'soft targets' in the capital.

The anti-terror drill, codenamed Exercise Atlantic Blue, involved 10,000 personnel in the UK and 2,500 in the UK. It was billed as the biggest test of the anti-terror defences of both the UK and the US and was designed to improve security. The exercise featured simulated explosive, biological and chemical attacks and, in the case of London, concentrated on testing security weaknesses in the transport system."


Another drill...

"...A full-scale mock attack was staged in September 2003 to give emergency services the chance to rehearse: lessons learnt from it, including the need for specially adapted trolleys to use in rescuing passengers from narrow tunnels, were put into place last week. Firefighters have also been trained to drive tube trains, so that if a driver were killed they would be able to move a train to the safety of a platform; the trains hit last week were too badly disabled to be moved..."

more...
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,152...

--UPDATE--

From Continuity Forum:
In a March 17, 2005 interview Home Office Minister Hazel Blears was asked:

Question: "What happens if a terrorist incident occurs during the exercise?"

Answer: "In the event of a major incident of any sort a decision would be taken to halt the exercise. There will be no impact on the level of policing or security within London during the week of the exercise."
http://www.continuityforum.org/news/atlanticblue

-Culhavoc
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:54 AM
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2. And ?
nt
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:58 AM
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4. Read the links above, just like 9/11
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 04:19 AM by evolvenow
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 04:05 AM
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8. I looked into this earlier.
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 04:20 AM by beam me up scottie
It is NOT a BBC story.

Why do you think the mods keep locking these threads ?

And if you know they are being locked, why are you reposting ?



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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 04:08 AM
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9. Found 2 New Links, Guardian and BBC cannot be brushed off.
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 04:15 AM by evolvenow
These are strong links. The weird reason for locking was that the link from prisonplanet.com, was not allowed? Where is that written.

This is an important, new, developing story and these links are legitimate. It needs to be looked into.

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 04:15 AM
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11. Your Guardian link is useless
and the other one is just an online forum discussing a drill that was planned more than 2 years ago.

"• Exercise Atlantic Blue is part of our on-going national exercise programme. The exercise has been planned for over 2 years and was first announced parliament in July 2003"

It means nothing.
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 05:03 AM
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13. British security officials reduced the terrorist alert levels,even with G8
ITALIAN NEWS OF "CONTROL LINKS" BETWEEN U.S. AND TERRORIST GROUPS BROKE TWO DAYS BEFORE LONDON TRANSPORT BOMBINGS (SEE STORY BELOW). TRAIN BOMBINGS IN MADRID AND LONDON SIMILAR TO ITALIAN FASCIST/U.S.-BACKED BOMBING OF BOLOGNA TRAIN STATION IN 1980. THAT BOMBING LEFT 85 DEAD AND 200 INJURED. A PREVIOUS FASCIST BOMBING OF THE ITALICUS EXPRESS TRAIN NEAR BOLOGNA IN AUG. 1974 KILLED 12 AND INJURED 48. ITALIAN SOURCES ARE NOW REVEALING DETAILS OF U.S. "LEVEL OF CONTROL" FOR TERRORIST GROUPS, INCLUDING THOSE LINKED TO AL QAEDA. KIDNAPED IMAM ABU OMAR AND SISMI DEPUTY CHIEF NICOLA CALIPARI HAD DISCOVERED THESE TIES. THESE LINKS INVOLVE PARALLEL INTELLIGENCE NETWORKS THAT HAVE BEEN OPERATIONAL FOR DECADES AND WHICH ARE BEING EXPOSED BY THE ITALIAN MEDIA.

At least 40 people were reportedly killed in the London bombings with hundreds more injured. The bombings took place during morning rush hour. The explosions were in rapid succession: 8:51 am at Aldgate East station near Liverpool Street rail station, 8:56 am at King's Cross/Russell Square station; 9:17 am at Edgware Road station; and 9:47 am on a London Transport double decker bus at Tavistock Square near the British Museum. The death toll is expected to increase. There have been reports that in recent days, British security officials reduced the terrorist alert levels for London, even as Britain prepared for the G8 Summit in Scotland.


Tavistock Square bus bombing

A new group "Secret Organization -- Al Qaeda Jihad in Europe" claimed credit for London bombings. However, anyone can post to the Islamist web site where the claim appeared. Nothing is known previously about this group. However, it has warned Denmark and Italy about similar attacks. Observers also point to the odd name of the group, which sounds contrived and not in keeping with past Jihadist nomenclature.

Italy, targeted by the new group, is now the scene of a major exposé on past U.S. and Israeli support for terrorist groups, including those infiltrated by U.S. and Israeli agents. These shadowy groups kidnaped Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro and bombed two trains in Bologna.

Hours before the London bombings took place, a highly-connected U.S. intelligence source, speaking on a condition of anonymity, postulated that Vice President Dick Cheney and a cabal of neo-conservatives working in his office and the Pentagon had prior knowledge of the 911 terrorist attacks on New York City and the Pentagon and used them for maximum political advantage.  Bush, who reportedly had no pre-knowledge of the specific attacks, was nevertheless used as a stage prop by the neo-cons, going to locations where he was instructed to go and parroting pre-prepared anti-terrorism statements.


CONTINUED...

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com /
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:58 AM
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5. Alex Jones is not a good source
Is there a link to the BBC story?
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 04:01 AM
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6. Links on #3. The BBC and Guardian are certainly legitimate sources.
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 04:02 AM by evolvenow
Focus on the story, not Alex Jones.

kick
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 04:03 AM
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7. There is no BBC story.
There was an interview on BBC 5 with some guy who does this for a living.
The only ones trying to make something out of it are Prison Planet.

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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 04:13 AM
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10. Look at the links, this story is NEW, and people that heard it on BBC,
said that is vanished right after it played, just like the US Operation MockingBird MSM, buries any story that may point to something that they do not want people to know about.

kick
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 04:19 AM
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12. It was an INTERVIEW
that was broadcast, not a report or an article from the BBC website.

There is nothing to bury.

This company stages drill constantly, it is WHAT they do.
They ran one on the morning of the attack, how the hell does that indicate a government conspiracy ?

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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 05:05 AM
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14. Read this thread, there is plenty of information coming out...
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 06:43 AM
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16. The exersise was the mirror image of what actually happened that morning
How can that not make you suspicious?

Prison PLanet is not one of my favorite sites but imo Alex Jones is correct in saying that this is "lightyears beyond coincidence".
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 07:29 AM
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17. "This company stages drill constantly, it is WHAT they do."
Link, please, for "constantly."

In the interview, Power says "I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now." Apparently, shit like this doesn't happen everyday to him.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 06:41 AM
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15. The BBC 5 interview speaks for itself:
Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants states that "at 9:30 this morning (7/7/05) we (his company Visor Consultants) were actually running an exercise (...) based on simultaneous bombs precisely at the railway stations (...)" where the actual attacks took place.

It must take a lot of effort not to make something out of this.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:37 AM
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18. Locking, still not sourced
by a reputable site. WayneMadsen and PrisonPlanet are not credible.
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