xymphora attacks DailyKos for purging skeptics

[Woody Box]

Daily Kos, practically a semi-official mainstream Democrat blog, is censoring itself over "a series of bizarre, off-the-wall, unsupported and frankly embarrassing conspiracy theories" concerning the London bombing. This is part of the reason why mainstream Democrats are such losers, and will be for a long, long time.

http://www.xymphora.blogspot.com

[whatever4]

1. And I thought it was censorship here!

Boy did I read that wrong! I thought it was a topic here. I thought Daily Kos was a poster, and a moderator here, not another website. I'm so glad. Now I have to look back and see how I missed it.

[Benhurst]

2. Phew! And I thought it was the fixed election results in Florida in

2000 and Georgia in 2002, to say nothing of the rigged electronic voting machines in 2004.

And to think it was all just the Democrats fault for being too conspiracy minded.

[JHBowden]

3. Blaming America hurts us more than Joementum.

I disagree with xymphora's conclusion.

[Gyre]

4. Good for them!

Pandering to paranoid lunatics, regardless of their politics, only brings discredit to the left. Ours is the only large tent, but there's no room for the insane when we're at war.

Gyre

[billbuckhead]

5. They haven't proved Al Queda did it either.

Ever hear of "Operation Northwoods"? History is full of "false flag" operations.

[Eloriel]

7. Yep

Lots and lots of 'em, some of 'em not at all well known, and maybe some of 'em will never BE known. Doesn't mean they didn't happen, though.

[Name removed]

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[billbuckhead]

10. Kos ought to do what he thinks is right, he is making a career and living

If he's thinking about moving toward the various "middles" to try to gain "credibility" with the mainstream mainstreet media channels this may help him, but it doesn't help America. A better choice might have been a "tin foil hat " forum to segregate the false flag/conspiracy theory posts.

I think we start to reframe "conspiracy theories" as false flag operations. History is full of them, the CIA---FBI--MI5--Mossad--KGB--etc can't help but brag about them or eventually the truth comes out. Wonder how many of these false flag operations these supersecret outfits don't brag about?

[whatever4]

12. And wonder if they wouldn't kill to keep those secrets

Personally, I put nothing past this admin.

It's just a question of what is profitable. It's plain and simple. Follow the money. Nothing crazy, nothing lunatic, it's the oldest issue of all. Very little radical in the concept of government corruption. It's just that word, conspiracy, seems to wig people out. As if what they have done, have managed to do already, is ANY better than any conspiracy us nuts would have dreamed up.

In my nightmares, they were stopped long before they were able to wage a war. In my nightmares, no one laughes at the idea of abuse of power causing deaths. Lost money, lost rights, all those things are important, but the lose of life is the most serious of all, and in my poor, simplistic lunatic nightmares, I didn't see democrats laughing about the possibility that murders happened. Murders for profit. War crimes, complete with torture. I NEVER thought things could go this badly.

[tosca_veritas]

11. hope this explains it for you

> Slavery and the eight veils
> >
> > by Don Harkins
> >
> > Over the last several years I have evolved and discarded several
> theories in an attempt to explain why it is that most people cannot
> see truth -- even when it smacks them in the face. Those of us who can
> see "the conspiracy" have participated in countless conversations
> amongst ourselves that address the frustration of most peoples'
> inability to comprehend the extremely well-documented arguments which
> we use to describe the process of our collective enslavement and
> exploitation. The most common explanation to be arrived at is that
> most people just "don't want to see" what is really going on.
> >
> > Extremely evil men and women who make up the world's power-elite
> have cleverly cultivated a virtual pasture so grass green that few
> people seldom, if ever, bother to look up from where they are grazing
> long enough to notice the brightly colored tags stapled to their ears.
> >
> > The same people who cannot see their enslavement for the pasture
> grass have a tendency to view as insane "conspiracy theorists" those
> of us who can see the past, the farm and into the parlor of his feudal
> lordship's castle.
> >
> > Finally, I understand why.
> >
> > It's not that those who don't see that their freedom is vanishing
> under the leadership of the power-elite "don't want to see it" -- they
> simply can't see what is happening to them because of the unpierced
> veils that block their view.
> >
> > All human endeavors are a filtration process. Sports is one of the
> best examples. We play specific sports until we get kicked off the
> playground. The pro athletes we pay big bucks to watch just never got
> kicked off the playground. Where millions of kids play little league
> each spring, they are filtered out until there are about 50 guys who
> go to the World Series in October.
> >
> > Behind the first veil: There are over six billion people on the
> planet. Most of them live and die without having seriously
> contemplated anything other than what it takes to keep their lives
> together. Ninety percent of all humanity will live and die without
> having pierced the first veil.
> >
> > The first veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the first veil and
> find the world of politics. We will vote, be active and have an
> opinion. Our opinions are shaped by the physical world around us; we
> have a tendency to accept that government officials, network media
> personalities and other "experts" are voices of authority. Ninety
> percent of the people in this group will live and die without having
> pierced the second veil.
> >
> > The second veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the second veil to
> explore the world of history, the relationship between man and
> government and the meaning of self-government through constitutional
> and common law. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live
> and die without having pierced the third veil.
> >
> > The third veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the third veil to find
> that the resources of the world, including people, are controlled by
> extremely wealthy and powerful families whose incorporated old world
> assets have, with modern extortion strategies, become the foundation
> upon which the world's economy is currently indebted. Ninety percent
> of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced
> the fourth veil.
> >
> > The fourth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fourth veil to
> discover the Illuminati, Freemasonry and the other secret societies.
> These societies use symbols and perform ceremonies that perpetuate the
> generational transfers of arcane knowledge that is used to keep the
> ordinary people in political, economic and spiritual bondage to the
> oldest bloodlines on earth. Ninety percent of the people in this group
> will live and die without having pierced the fifth veil.
> >
> > The fifth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fifth veil to
> learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically
> and in the means of brainwashing and controlling the actions of people
> that their members do as offhandedly as we tell our children when they
> must go to bed. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live
> and die without having pierced the sixth veil.
> >
> > The sixth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the sixth veil where
> the dragons and aliens (Satan) we thought were the fictional monsters
> of childhood literature are real and are the controlling forces behind
> the secret societies. Ninety percent of the people in this group will
> live and die without piercing the seventh veil.
> >
> > The seventh veil: I do not know what is behind the seventh veil. I
> think it is where your soul is evolved to the point you can exist on
> earth and be the man Ghandi was, or the woman Peace Pilgrim was -
> people so enlightened they brighten the world around them no matter
what.
> >
> > The eighth veil? Piercing the eighth veil probably reveals God and
> the pure energy that is the life force in all living things - which
> are, I think, one and the same.
> >
> > If my math is accurate there are only about 60,000 people on the
> planet who have pierced the sixth veil. The irony here is too
> incredible: Those who are stuck behind veils one through five have
> little choice but to view the people who have pierced the veils beyond
> them as insane. With each veil pierced, exponentially shrinking
> numbers of increasingly enlightened people are deemed insane by
> exponentially increasing masses of decreasingly enlightened people.
> >
> > Adding to the irony, the harder a "sixth or better veiler" tries to
> explain what he is able to see to those who can't, the more insane he
> appears to them.
> >
> > Our enemy, the state
> >
> > Behind the first two veils we find the great majority of people on
> the planet. They are tools of the state: Second veilers are the
> gullible voters whose ignorance justify the actions of politicians who
> send first veilers off to die in foreign lands as cannon fodder --
> their combined stations in life are to believe that the self-serving
> machinations of the power-elite are matters of national security worth
> dying for.
> >
> > Third, fourth, fifth and sixth veilers are of increasing liability
> to the state because of their decreasing ability to be used as tools
> to consolidate power and wealth of the many into the hands of the
> power-elite. It is common for these people to sacrifice more of their
> relationships with friends and family, their professional careers and
> personal freedom with each veil they pierce.
> >
> > Albert Jay Nock (1870-1945), author of "Our Enemy, the State"
> (1935), explained what happens to those who find the seventh and
> eighth veils: "What was the best that the state could find to do with
> an actual Socrates and an actual Jesus when it had them? Merely to
> poison one and crucify the other, for no reason but that they were too
> intolerably embarrassing to be allowed to live any longer."
> >
> > Conclusions
> >
> > And so now we know that it's not that our countrymen are so
> committed to their lives that, "they don't want to see," the
> mechanisms of their enslavement and exploitation. They simply "can't
> see" it as surely as I cannot see what's on the other side of a closed
> curtain.
> >
> > The purpose of this essay is threefold: To help the handful of
> people in the latter veils to understand why the masses have little
> choice but to interpret their clarity as insanity; 2. To help people
> behind the first two veils understand that living, breathing and
> thinking are just the beginning and; 3. Show people that the greatest
> adventure of our life is behind the next veil because that is just one
> less veil between ourselves and God.

[whatever4]

13. Very interesting, thank you :) nt

[Ian David]

14. Conspiracy theorists aren't lunatics. But some theories are lunacy.

Conspiracy theory:
Bush stole the election-- not lunacy

Conspiracy theory:
Dick Cheney is an android- lunacy

[I Have A Dream]

15. I agree with you, whatever4.

However, if they think that our government would never do such things, you're probably never going to be able to convince them. I love my country, but I don't feel any requirement to trust our government, especially given all of the other things that they've done out in the open,in front of our very eyes,and have gotten away with it without even a peep from most Americans.

Sorry that you're being attacked. It's so easy for people to discredit things by calling them "conspiracy theories". Call something this, and it's immediately something that a "reasonable" person won't consider worthy of discussing or examining. Language so easily controls people, doesn't it?

(NOTE: I'm not responding specifically to anyone who posted in this thread. This is just a generic observation that I'm making about things like this.)

:hug:

[jeff30997]

6. You know...Just between you and me...

Don't repeat this to anyone because if you do I'll deny it...

Elvis killed JFK,Saddam is a robot,Mother Theresa was in fact an alien and so was Gandhi,Jim Morrison is alive and work at Area 51,and Ann Coulter is Bigfoot...

[qanda]

9. That didn't sound like an attack to me

Sounds like they agree with Kos, which I think is unfortunate.

[Moderator]

16. Locking

"Democrats are losers" is highly inflammatory and this type rhetoric is not welcome here.