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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:55 AM
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If Bush could run again in '08, would he win?
I guess what I'm really wondering is...is this country officially so far gone to the Right that this is the type of madman it wants leading it? If Bush could legally run for a third term in 2008, would the United States of Stupidity elect him again? It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

As I look around me each day, this country seems more and more like a Republican country by a broad margin. Even lower class working people, the ones who have the most to gain by voting for a Democrat, seem to cast all that aside in favor of Bush's rah-rah cowboy act. My gut feeling is that there are way more Republicans than Democrats, and that each and every one of them would vote for this same man-child again if they had the chance, regardless of him being the worst and most divisive president in history. I hope I'm wrong.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:59 AM
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1. It's possible with the media in his pocket...
But, there is no question that Bill Clinton would have won in a landslide in 2000 against Bush as well.

Voting machines aside, it all depends on the candidate.
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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:59 AM
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2. Depends.
Who's countin' the votes?
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:00 AM
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3. Exactimundo
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:01 AM
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5. Exactly...
If there were no funny business with voting machines, he absolutely could not and would not win again. I think that even many of the sheeple who voted for him last time are thinking to themselves - enough.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:00 AM
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4. I don't think he's win. I doubt it would be the blowout we all
would hope for, but I believe there are enough dissenters now, that have turely seen the real Shrub, that he'd loose.''A lot would depend on who ran against him.

Thank God that he can't run though!
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:02 AM
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6. Thank God for term limits !
Iam constantly puzzled ,when I find out that certain people I know support this President ,and dont see thru the dog and pony show of a white house we have ,besides the point his whole game is dangerous and costing lives both American and those from other countries !
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:03 AM
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7. Do you mean in an unfixed election?
In a free election, he wouldn't have won in 2000 or 2004.
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alkaline9 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:04 AM
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8. Unfortunately...
...I think the U.S. would vote for shrub again. That's why we need to do everything we can to discredit his party's politics to get a REAL president back in the office.

However, I think there's about the same amount of 'pubs as dems... The near 50% vote the past 2 elections would indicate that to me. I think shrub has been working off the fears of terrorism to get the small portion of dems to vote for him time and again. The repukes however are almost always unwaivering in their "vote now, ask no questions later" routine.... Makes me ill.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:06 AM
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9. The corporations are going to put in the candidate of their
choice - Democrat or Republican. Everybody belongs to the corporations - everybody...
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Patty Diana Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:40 AM
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17. In 2004 the election was stolen based on the Fraudulent GOP owned
polls. They can only steal an election by having polls that are close.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:07 AM
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10. Most likely
The DLC is sure to run Clinton, Bayh and/or Biden which would pretty much ensure a GOP win.
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Chef Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:11 AM
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11. Bush '08
All a moot point. The damage to America is done. Three more years of this fool and, hopefully the Republicans will have Hoover-fucked themselves for a generation. However, don't underestimate these vermin. They have been successful because they have always had a boogie man to scare the voters with. They have three years to come up with a new one and hide the damage they have wrought.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:42 AM
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18. Yea, I Have Felt That Re-Selection Would 'Hoover-Fuck'
the Corporatist Party for a generation.

Now, I am not so sure. They have the survival instinct of cockroaches.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:17 AM
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12. Of course he'd win. The electronic voting machines are strongly
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 08:18 AM by Stevepol
Republican. If you could persuade the machines to change party affiliation, then it would be possible for a Dem to win.

Whatever Democrat runs in 08 will win the election.

Kerry won the 04 election by a considerable margin.

Cleland won the election in GA in 02.

All of that makes no difference. The machines will give a different result.

Just don't jump to the conclusion that the Repubs actually have more votes just because the voting machines work as they're programmed or patched or hacked or twisted to work.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:29 AM
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13. So are you saying that the people you see around you are mostly Dems?
Voting machines aside, there are way too many people who I see that would vote for this madman again in a heartbeat. Personally, the feeling I get is that this country is a Rightist country now, voting machines or not. You don't have to look too far to see it.

Even with perfect voting machines, I still have my doubts.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:37 AM
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14. Unless the Electronic Voting Machine problems were fixed...
I think, pretty much, he'd be guaranteed a win.

The 2006 elections will tell us a lot. If the Democrats can win back either the House or the Senate, they may only be willing to dare fraud on a massive scale to benefit Bush, and his crowd's WH power. But, if we see grand-scale fraud in 2006, we'll know they are willing to risk everything to hold onto all the brances of government for any Republican.

If that is so, I think we're officially in a one-party system until we can take the Diebold strangle-hold off our election system.

TC
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PDX Bara Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:29 AM
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15. Win???
Of course he would "win." Daddy would buy him the presidency - again - if the baby bush wanted it.
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Patty Diana Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:33 AM
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16. ABSOLUTELY______HE'D WIN WITH 100% OF THE VOTES
These fuckers can't lose. I keep telling my repuke brother that if NO ONE voted for shrub, he'd still have won (WITH HIS FUCKING MAN-DATE). He then then evacutes the premise. Like Vagas can't lose!!! They own the machines!!!!!
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