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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:55 AM
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Media whores: Plame neither proposed or authorized Wilson's Niger trip!
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 10:29 AM by flpoljunkie
Stop repeating this WH lie! You are either fools or complicit in the coverup of the truth--altho the Republican controlled Intelligence Committee tried to smear Wilson. Some junket, Wilson paid for the trip himself and was later reimbursed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/05/politics/05wilson.html?pagewanted=print

In the version of his Republican critics, laid out in part by members of the Senate Intelligence Committee last year, Mr. Wilson's trip was a junket orchestrated by his wife. Further, the critics say, Mr. Wilson's findings on the uranium question were equivocal. But as a partisan Democrat, they say, he exploited his minor involvement to attack the president, asserting that Mr. Bush misled the American people by citing the questionable uranium claim in his 2003 State of the Union address.

<>Mr. Wilson said that though his wife wrote a memorandum describing his expertise at the request of a C.I.A. superior, she did not propose him for the Niger trip. He scoffs at the notion that a trip to one of the poorest countries on earth, for which he was paid only his expenses, was some kind of prize.

He has acknowledged he may have misspoken about a few details, like the date he became aware of forged documents purporting to show a uranium sale. But conservatives' attacks on his credibility, he said, are merely an effort to distract Americans from a far graver fact: that the United States went to war on the basis of flimsy, distorted evidence.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:07 AM
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1. Recommended!
This is exactly what some in the press are trying to convey. On "Hardball" last night, some editor/writer for the NY Post repeated that lie, and Chris Matthews affirmed it with, "Yes, that was a lie," kind of line. Prick.

IMHO, this whole Rove thing will come down to that point--who authorized the trip? If Wilson is telling the truth (which he is) then it was Cheney.

Roves defense is, as I see it right now, is--"I didn't know Wilson's wife was a covert operative, I was just trying to point out Wilson's lies, in order to show that he couldn't be trusted about his "I found nothing in Niger" report. It's Bullshit, but that's what he's going to try---which is why, IMHO, he needs Miller to stay in jail. I believe Miller's source was Cheney, or Scooter Libby--Cheney's top dawg.

Novak's sources, IMO, were both Rove and Libby---authorized by Rove's boss--Bush---and Libby's boss--Cheney. IMPEACH for lying us into war, and treason for compromising national security.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:23 AM
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4. And I think Miller is in jail to protect Cheney
and her own ass.

It is amazing to me how her going to jail has been positioned as a First Amendment and Freedom of the Press issue.

She was given a name by the WH because she had been so useful and agreeable to spinning stories for the White House to build a case for war. Treasonous crimes were committed. What's heroic about continuing to cover it up?

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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:35 AM
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10. If Rove was the source for both reporters, then why is Cooper off the hook
and Miller in jail?
Either they have different sources or
Rove contacted Cooper and not Miller or
Rove did not contact either reporter directly, but Luskin, Rove's lawyer reiterated the blanket release of any confidentiality agreement with reporters and Cooper took it to mean he was released but Miller didn't interpret it the same way.
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Ysolde Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:56 AM
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14. And I keep seeing this over and over.
I'm getting so sick of having to explain it. There's nothing anywhere that allows a reporter to hide a source that committed a crime! The person who outed Valerie Plame committed a crime. They were not a whistleblower. There is no Freedom of the Press issue. AAAGGHHH!!!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 12:29 PM
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19. Right-O
and still we have people who see heroes in this mess. :wtf:
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:16 AM
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2. Definitely recommended
I'm very tired of seeing this lie perpetuated, as well.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:21 AM
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3. In the interest of accuracy, many have used the word
"recommended."

I know that I asked Derry, a professor I know, to write a recommendation for me. Summarizing my expertise and capability. The grad program I was applying for required 3 such recommendations.

Plame didn't propose. She didn't authorize. She was authorized for neither. Did the written "recommendation" follow discussion? Dunno. No info.

Those who say she authorized or proposed her husband are distorting what happened. Those who say she was uninvolved are calling Wilson a liar.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:27 AM
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5. They're ignoring the most important points...
One of which is the Joe Wilson was NOT PUBLICLY CRITICAL OF BUSH & HIS ADMINISTRATION UNTIL THEY LIED about the yellowcake uranium. The puppet heads pass right over that point. It was his going public about his trip to Niger that brought him into the spotlight; before that he was not involved in anything even remotely connected with any "anti-Iraq-war" or "anti-W" movement.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:29 AM
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6. great post!
It makes me sick to hear these lies repeated.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:30 AM
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7. kick for the greatest nt
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:32 AM
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8. I think we should send this to Tweety and then ask him to step aside.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 10:33 AM by fooj
i'd much rather hear what David Gregory has to say. At least he gets his facts straight! Tweety needs to be held accountable for assisting this admin. in spreading around govt. propaganda! Shame, shame, shame...you shill!!!!
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:35 AM
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9. that the United States went to war on the basis of flimsy, distorted.....
evidence. This is indeed the most important point lost in this, understandable, rush to bring down Bush's Brain. While we have Scotty on the ropes at the daily briefing, let's bring some body blows on the paper thin excuse for war foisted on the public.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:47 PM
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20. NOT flimsy, distorted evidence
You would have to have a grain of real information, now matter how flimsy, to distort. The Niger yellowcake "documents" were outright forgeries made up out of whole cloth.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:40 AM
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11. Good article....I have a question.......I read somewhere.....
that Plame and Miller knew each other.......is that bullshit? Just curious? You know how they put out lies......and this could be another BIG ONE........anybody know?
Bama
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:55 AM
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12. My best answer to your question is
"I don't know." I do know that Miller covered the Middle-east for the NYT--and was banned from Iraq sometime, I believe, in the run-up to the first Iraq war. Plame, according to those who outed her was working undercover on WMD issues--so, their area of work overlapped. Joe Wilson wrote his Op-ed for NYT--so, I guess it's possible they knew each other. DON'T know if Miller knew Plame was CIA operative, before the info was "outed" by the White House--if she did, she as a LOT MORE 'splainin' to do, other than the stated reason why she's in jail.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:56 AM
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13. They constantly repeat the GOP talking points
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 10:57 AM by HootieMcBoob
and Chris Matthews is the worst he makes me want to puke.

The CIA themselves have said that they asked Plame whether Wilson would be willing to take the trip and that was the reason she wrote the memo...and really it's FUCKING BESIDE THE POINT!

Plus, this GOP talking point totally destroys their other talking point that Plame was just a simple staff person. Would a simple staff person have had the juice to decide that her husband should be the one to go on such an important trip?

And the bigger point is that an investigation was originally done within the CIA. They came to the conclusion that there was a crime committed and it was then turned over to the justice department to begin a criminal investigation. If the CIA didn't think there was a crime here or that it was not big deal, as every Republican whore has been saying, then they would never have turned it over to the FBI!

This makes it painfully clear that every member of the GOP, every Republican whore in the media and every freeper asshole who parrots these GOP talking points, doesn't give two shits about this country or the people who put their lives on the line every day to guard the nations security. They are more than willing to put their party over their country. We've seen it over and over. Republicans and their idiot sycophants in the press are enemies of this country and its people.

That's the plain truth.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 11:02 AM
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15. "That's the plain truth!" You're right.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 11:05 AM by rateyes
And, we need to shout it from the rooftops. It need to be a LW "talking point"--Republicans who are defending this crap love party over country.

Edit to add: Which makes them UNpatriotic.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 11:14 AM
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16. Yesterday MSNBC repeatedly said Joe Wilson lied about it
Said that he lied in saying his wife had not proposed the trip to Niger, lied about looking at the forged papers ("because he never saw the forged papers"), and one other thing.

I wondered at the time on what grounds or what basis they were saying that. None?

I trust Joe Wilson much more than Chris Matthews or Tucker (can't remember which it was) but is there any independent verification of who proposed the trip?

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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 11:34 AM
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17. allegations Wilson lied was only a minority opinion of the Senate Report.
it was signed by only 3(of 9 republican) and none of the 9 democratic senators on the senate intelligence committee. each allegation was rebutted by wilson in his essay below.

the devil is in the details here. the right wing has repeatedly accused wilson of lying, "according to the committee report," however these allegations were contained in a minority "additional views" section signed by senators roberts, burns and hatch. the main, unanimous report did not accuse willson of lying at all.

So many places to start, but in this case the beginning might as well be this, viz., the Report of Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, because that is the document being used to attack Joe Wilson’s veracity and thus undermine his New York Times article of June 6, 2003, which itself was an attack on the truthfulness of the Bush Administration in the run-up to the Iraq War.

Wilson’s article provoked a retaliatory response from the Bush administration that “his wife is fair game,” according to Chris Mathews relating a phone call from Karl Rove. A subsequent leak to the press (at least six press members were contacted) provided information as to the CIA position of Wilson’s wife. Her job and her employment with the CIA were considered covert.

Because her covert status was revealed in the press it was considered by the CIA to be a matter to be investigated by the Dept of Justice. The Grand Jury investigation is centering upon White House employees having leaked the confidential information to the press.

So, proceeding, first, the actual words in the Report that are the reference point for the attacks on Wilson’s honesty instead of wilful mutant didactions found strewn all over FreeperLand that have also appeared.

From an appendix to the actual Report, entitled “Additional View” There are nine “Additional Views” sign by from one to six Senators. This one is signed by three Senators.

http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/13jul20041400/www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/creports/pdf/s108-301/roberts.pdf

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/creports/iraq.html

Despite our hard and successhl work to deliver a unanimous report, however,
there were two issues on which the Republicans and Democrats could not agree: 1)
whether the Committee should conclude that former Ambassador Joseph Wilson’s public
statements were not based on knowledge he actually possessed, and 2) whether the
Committee should conclude that it was the former ambassador’swife who recommended
him for his trip to Niger.
Niger
The Committee began its review of prewar intelligence on Iraq by examining the
Intelligence Community’s sharing of intelligence information with the UNMOVIC
inspection teams. (The Committee’s findings on that topic can be found in the section of
the report titled, “The Intelligence Community’s Sharing of Intelligence on Iraqi Suspect
WMD Sites with UN Inspectors.”) Shortly thereafter, we expanded the review when
former Ambassador Joseph Wilson began speaking publicly about his role in exploring
the possibility that Iraq was seeking or may have acquired uranium yellowcake from
- 442 -
Africa. Ambassador Wilson’s emergence was precipitated by a passage in President
Bush’s January 2003 State of the Union address which is now referred to as “the sixteen
words.” President Bush stated, “. . .the British government has learned that Saddam
Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.” The details of the
Committee’s findings and conclusions on this issue can be found in the Niger section of
the report. What cannot be found, however, are two conclusions upon which the
Committee’s Democrats would not agree. While there was no dispute with the
underlying facts, my Democrat colleagues rehsed to allow the following conclusions to
appear in the report:
Conclusion: The plan to send the former ambassador to Niger was
suggested by the former ambassador’s wife, a CIA employee.
The former ambassador’s wife suggested her husband for the trip
to Niger in February 2002. The former ambassador had traveled
previously to Niger on behalf of the CIA, also at the suggestion of his
wife, to look into another matter not related to Iraq. On February 12,
2002, the former ambassador’swife sent a memorandum to a Deputy
Chief of a division in the CIA’SDirectorate of Operations which said,
and
the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both
of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.’’ This was just
one day before the same Directorate of Operations division sent a cable to
one of its overseas stations requesting concurrence with the division’s idea
to send the former ambassador to Niger.
Conclusion: Rather than speaking publicly about his actual
experiences during his inquiry of the Niger issue, the former
ambassador seems to have included information he learned from
press accounts and from his beliefs about how the Intelligence
Community would have or should have handled the information he
provided.
At the time the former ambassador traveled to Niger, the
Intelligence Community did not have in its possession any actual
documents on the alleged Niger-Iraq uranium deal, only second hand
reporting of the deal. The former ambassador’s comments to reporters that
the Niger-Iraq uranium documents “may have been forged because ‘the
dates were wrong and the names were ~ o n g , ” ’ could not have been based
on the forrner ambassador’s actual experiences because the Intelligence
Community did not have the documents at the time of the ambassador’s
trip. In addition, nothing in the report from the former ambassador’strip
said anything about documents having been forged or the names or dates
- 443 -
in the reports having been incorrect. The former ambassador told
Committee staff that he, in fact, did not have access to any of the names
and dates in the CIA’s reports and said he may have become confbsed
about his own recollection after the International Atomic Energy Agency
(IAEA) reported in March 2003 that the names and dates on the
documents were not correct. Of note, the names and dates in the
documents that the IAEA found to be incorrect were not names or dates
included in the CIA reports.
Following the Vice President’s review of an intelligence report
regarding a possible uranium deal, he asked his briefer for the CIA’s
analysis of the issue. It was this request which generated Mr. Wilson’s trip
to Niger. The former ambassador’s public comments suggesting that the
Vice President had been briefed on the information gathered during his
trip is not correct, however. While the CIA responded to the Vice
President’s request for the Agency’s analysis, they never provided the
information gathered by the former Ambassador. The former ambassador,
in an NBC Meet the Press interview on July 6,2003, said, “The office of
the Vice President, I am absolutely convinced, received a very specific
response to the question it asked and that response was based upon my trip
out there.” The former ambassador was speaking on the basis of what he
believed should have happened based on his former government
experience, but he had no knowledge that this did happen.
These and other public comments from the former ambassador,
such as comments that his report “debunked” the Niger-Iraq uranium
story, were incorrect and have led to a distortion in the press and in the
public’s understanding of the facts surrounding the Niger-Iraq uranium
story. The Committee found that, for most analysts, the former
ambassador’s report lent more credibility, not less, to the reported Niger-
Iraq uranium deal.
During Mr. Wilson’s media blitz, he appeared on more than thirty television
shows including entertainment venues. Time and again, Joe Wilson told anyone who
would listen that the President had lied to the American people, that the Vice President
had lied, and that he had “debunked” the claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from
Africa. As discussed in the Niger section of the report, not only did he NOT “debunk”
the claim, he actually gave some intelligence analysts even more reason to believe that it
may be true. I believed very strongly that it was important for the Committee to conclude
publicly that many of the statements made by Ambassador Wilson were not only
incorrect, but had no basis in fact.
- 444 -
In an interview with Committee staff, Mr. Wilson was asked how he knew some
of the things he was stating publicly with such confidence. On at least two occasions he
admitted that he had no direct knowledge to support some of his claims and that he was
drawing on either unrelated past experiences or no information at all. For example, when
asked how he “knew” that the Intelligence Community had rejected the possibility of a
Niger-Iraq uranium deal, as he wrote in his book, he told Committee staff that his
assertion may have involved “a little literary flair.”
The former Ambassador, either by design or though ignorance, gave the
American people and, for that matter, the world a version of events that was inaccurate,
unsubstantiated, and misleading. Surely, the Senate Intelligence Committee, which has
unique access to all of the facts, should have been able to agree on a conclusion that
would correct the public record. Unfortunately, we were unable to do so.


Yes indeed, harsh words for Mr. Wilson from three of the US Senators on that committee.

However, it should be noted that there were eighteen members of the US Senate on that committee, and all nine Democratic members along with six Republican US Senators refused to sign on to the aforementioned interpretation of the “facts.”

Again, lay side by side this minority viewpoint with Wilson’s rebuttal at Salon.com and his subsequent reply to the article in the Post and you can see why 15 US Senators did not sign on to what the minority view was stating. I could understand using this minority view if it was a majority view to attack Wilson, but is it not standard fare to use what the majority is saying is true instead of a minority view? When did we start saying that we all agree that what 1 out of 6 say is the way it is? Why were five out of six Serantors wrong?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/07/16/wilson_letter/index_np.htm

July 15, 2004

The Hon. Pat Roberts, Chairman, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

The Hon. Jay Rockefeller, Vice Chairman, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

Dear Sen. Roberts and Sen. Rockefeller,

I read with great surprise and consternation the Niger portion of Sens. Roberts, Bond and Hatch's additional comments to the Senate Select Intelligence Committee's Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Assessment on Iraq. I am taking this opportunity to clarify some of the issues raised in these comments.

First conclusion: "The plan to send the former ambassador to Niger was suggested by the former ambassador's wife, a CIA employee."
That is not true. The conclusion is apparently based on one anodyne quote from a memo Valerie Plame, my wife, sent to her superiors that says, "My husband has good relations with the PM and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity." There is no suggestion or recommendation in that statement that I be sent on the trip. Indeed it is little more than a recitation of my contacts and bona fides. The conclusion is reinforced by comments in the body of the report that a CPD reports officer stated that "the former ambassador's wife 'offered up his name'" (page 39) and a State Department intelligence and research officer stated that the "meeting was 'apparently convened by wife who had the idea to dispatch him to use his contacts to sort out the Iraq-Niger uranium issue."

In fact, Valerie was not in the meeting at which the subject of my trip was raised. Neither was the CPD reports officer. After having escorted me into the room, she departed the meeting to avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest. It was at that meeting where the question of my traveling to Niger was broached with me for the first time and came only after a thorough discussion of what the participants did and did not know about the subject. My bona fides justifying the invitation to the meeting were the trip I had previously taken to Niger to look at other uranium-related questions as well as 20 years living and working in Africa, and personal contacts throughout the Niger government. Neither the CPD reports officer nor the State analyst were in the chain of command to know who, or how, the decision was made. The interpretations attributed to them are not the full story. In fact, it is my understanding that the reports officer has a different conclusion about Valerie's role than the one offered in the "additional comments." I urge the committee to reinterview the officer and publicly publish his statement.

It is unfortunate that the report failed to include the CIA's position on this matter. If the staff had done so it would undoubtedly have been given the same evidence as provided to Newsday reporters Tim Phelps and Knut Royce in July 2003. They reported on July 22 that:

"A senior intelligence officer confirmed that Plame was a Directorate of Operations undercover officer who worked 'alongside' the operations officers who asked her husband to travel to Niger. But he said she did not recommend her husband to undertake the Niger assignment. 'They were aware of who she was married to, which is not surprising,' he said. 'There are people elsewhere in government who are trying to make her look like she was the one who was cooking this up, for some reason,' he said. 'I can't figure out what it could be.' 'We paid his airfare. But to go to Niger is not exactly a benefit. Most people you'd have to pay big bucks to go there,' the senior intelligence official said. Wilson said he was reimbursed only for expenses." (Newsday article "Columnist Blows CIA Agent's Cover," dated July 22, 2003).

In fact, on July 13 of this year, David Ensor, the CNN correspondent, did call the CIA for a statement of its position and reported that a senior CIA official confirmed my account that Valerie did not propose me for the trip:

"'She did not propose me,' he said -- others at the CIA did so. A senior CIA official said that is his understanding too."

Second conclusion: "Rather than speaking publicly about his actual experiences during his inquiry of the Niger issue, the former ambassador seems to have included information he learned from press accounts and from his beliefs about how the Intelligence Community would have or should have handled the information he provided."

This conclusion states that I told the committee staff that I "may have become confused about my own recollection after the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) reported that the names and dates on the documents were not correct." At the time that I was asked that question, I was not afforded the opportunity to review the articles to which the staff was referring. I have now done so.
On March 7, 2003, the director general of the IAEA reported to the U.N. Security Council that the documents that had been given to him were "not authentic." His deputy, Jacques Baute, was even more direct, pointing out that the forgeries were so obvious that a quick Google search would have exposed their flaws. A State Department spokesman was quoted the next day as saying about the forgeries, "We fell for it." From that time on the details surrounding the documents became public knowledge and were widely reported. I was not the source of information regarding the forensic analysis of the documents in question; the IAEA was.

The first time I spoke publicly about the Niger issue was in response to the State Department's disclaimer. On CNN a few days later, in response to a question, I replied that I believed the U.S. government knew more about the issue than the State Department spokesman had let on and that he had misspoken. I did not speak of my trip.

My first public statement was in my article of July 6 published in the New York Times, written only after it became apparent that the administration was not going to deal with the Niger question unless it was forced to. I wrote the article because I believed then, and I believe now, that it was important to correct the record on the statement in the president's State of the Union address which lent credence to the charge that Iraq was actively reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. I believed that the record should reflect the facts as the U.S. government had known them for over a year. The contents of my article do not appear in the body of the report and it is not quoted in the "additional comments." In that article, I state clearly that "as for the actual memorandum, I never saw it. But news accounts have pointed out that the documents had glaring errors -- they were signed, for example, by officials who were no longer in government -- and were probably forged. (And then there's the fact that Niger formally denied the charges.)"

The first time I actually saw what were represented as the documents was when Andrea Mitchell, the NBC correspondent, handed them to me in an interview on July 21. I was not wearing my glasses and could not read them. I have to this day not read them. I would have absolutely no reason to claim to have done so. My mission was to look into whether such a transaction took place or could take place. It had not and could not. By definition that makes the documents bogus.

The text of the "additional comments" also asserts that "during Mr. Wilson's media blitz, he appeared on more than thirty television shows including entertainment venues. Time and again, Joe Wilson told anyone who would listen that the President had lied to the American people, that the Vice President had lied, and that he had 'debunked' the claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa."
My article in the New York Times makes clear that I attributed to myself "a small role in the effort to verify information about Africa's suspected link to Iraq's nonconventional weapons programs." After it became public that there were then-Ambassador to Niger Barbro Owens-Kirkpatrick's report and the report from a four-star Marine Corps general, Carleton Fulford, in the files of the U.S. government, I went to great lengths to point out that mine was but one of three reports on the subject. I never claimed to have "debunked" the allegation that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa. I claimed only that the transaction described in the documents that turned out to be forgeries could not have occurred and did not occur. I did not speak out on the subject until several months after it became evident that what underpinned the assertion in the State of the Union address were those documents, reports of which had sparked Vice President Cheney's original question that led to my trip. The White House must have agreed. The day after my article appeared in the Times a spokesman for the president told the Washington Post that "the sixteen words did not rise to the level of inclusion in the State of the Union."

I have been very careful to say that while I believe that the use of the 16 words in the State of the Union address was a deliberate attempt to deceive the Congress of the United States, I do not know what role the president may have had other than he has accepted responsibility for the words he spoke. I have also said on many occasions that I believe the president has proven to be far more protective of his senior staff than they have been to him
The "additional comments" also assert: "The Committee found that, for most analysts, the former ambassador's report lent more credibility, not less, to the reported Niger-Iraq uranium deal." In fact, the body of the Senate report suggests the exact opposite:

In August 2002, a CIA NESA report on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabilities did not include the alleged Iraq-Niger uranium information. (page 48)

In September 2002, during coordination of a speech with an NSC staff member, the CIA analyst suggested the reference to Iraqi attempts to acquire uranium from Africa be removed. The CIA analyst said the NSC staff member said that would leave the British "flapping in the wind." (page 50)

The uranium text was included in the body of the NIE but not in the key judgments. When someone suggested that the uranium information be included as another sign of reconstitution, the INR Iraq nuclear analyst spoke up and said the he did not agree with the uranium reporting and that INR would be including text indicating their disagreement in their footnote on nuclear reconstitution. The NIO said he did not recall anyone really supporting including the uranium issue as part of the judgment that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear program, so he suggested that the uranium information did not need to be part of the key judgments. He told committee staff that he suggested, "We'll leave it in the paper for completeness. Nobody can say we didn't connect the dots. But we don't have to put that dot in the key judgments." (page 53)

On Oct. 2, 2002, the Deputy DCI testified before the SSCI . Sen. Jon Kyl asked the Deputy DCI whether he had read the British White Paper and whether he disagreed with anything in the report. The Deputy DCI testified that "the one thing where I think they stretched a little bit beyond where we would stretch is on the points about Iraq seeking uranium from various African locations." (page 54)

On Oct. 4, 2002, the NIO for Strategic and Nuclear Programs testified that "there is some information on attempts ... there's a question about those attempts because of the control of the material in those countries ... For us it's more the concern that they have uranium in-country now." (page 54)

On Oct. 5, 2002, the ADDI said an Iraqi nuclear analyst -- he could not remember who -- raised concerns about the sourcing and some of the facts of the Niger reporting, specifically that the control of the mines in Niger would have made it very difficult to get yellowcake to Iraq. (page 55)

Based on the analyst's comments, the ADDI faxed a memo to the deputy national security advisor that said, "Remove the sentence because the amount is in dispute and it is debatable whether it can be acquired from this source. We told Congress that the Brits have exaggerated this issue. Finally, the Iraqis already have 550 metric tons of uranium oxide in their inventory." (page 56)

On Oct. 6, 2002, the DCI called the deputy national security advisor directly to outline the CIA's concerns. The DCI testified to the SSCI on July 16, 2003, that he told the deputy national security advisor that the "President should not be a fact witness on this issue," because his analysts had told him the "reporting was weak." (page 56)

On Oct. 6, 2002, the CIA sent a second fax to the White House that said, "More on why we recommend removing the sentence about procuring uranium oxide from Africa: Three points (1) The evidence is weak. One of the two mines cited by the source as the location of the uranium oxide is flooded. The other mine cited by the source is under the control of the French authorities. (2) The procurement is not particularly significant to Iraq's nuclear ambitions because the Iraqis already have a large stock of uranium oxide in their inventory. And (3) we have shared points one and two with Congress, telling them that the Africa story is overblown and telling them this is one of the two issues where we differed with the British." (page 56)

On March 8, 2003, the intelligence report on my trip was disseminated within the U.S. government, according to the Senate report (page 43). Further, the Senate report states that "in early March, the Vice President asked his morning briefer for an update on the Niger uranium issue." That update from the CIA "also noted that the CIA would be debriefing a source who may have information related to the alleged sale on March 5." The report then states the "DO officials also said they alerted WINPAC
analysts when the report was being disseminated because they knew the high priority of the issue." The report notes that the CIA briefer did not brief the vice president on the report. (page 46)

It is clear from the body of the Senate report that the intelligence community, including the DCI himself, made several attempts to ensure that the president did not become a "fact witness" on an allegation that was so weak. A thorough reading of the report substantiates the claim made in my opinion piece in the New York Times and in subsequent interviews I have given on the subject. The 16 words should never have been in the State of the Union address, as the White House now acknowledges.

I undertook this mission at the request of my government in response to a legitimate concern that Saddam Hussein was attempting to reconstitute his nuclear weapons program. This was a national security issue that has concerned me since I was the deputy chief of mission in the U.S. Embassy in Iraq before and during the first Gulf War.

At the time of my trip I was in private business and had not offered my views publicly on the policy we should adopt toward Iraq. Indeed, throughout the debate in the run-up to the war, I took the position that the U.S. be firm with Saddam Hussein on the question of weapons of mass destruction programs, including backing tough diplomacy with the credible threat of force. In that debate I never mentioned my trip to Niger. I did not share the details of my trip until May 2003, after the war was over, and then only when it became clear that the administration was not going to address the issue of the State of the Union statement.

It is essential that the errors and distortions in the additional comments be corrected for the public record. Nothing could be more important for the American people than to have an accurate picture of the events that led to the decision to bring the United States into war in Iraq. The Senate Intelligence Committee has an obligation to present to the American people the factual basis of that process. I hope that this letter is helpful in that effort. I look forward to your further "additional comments."

Sincerely,
Joseph C. Wilson IV, Washington, D.C.


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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:20 PM
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21. Thanks so much for clarifying that.
Pat Roberts has the weight of a feather..if Bush tells him the sky is red today, he will go on the air and swear by it.

I hadn't heard these details before.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:47 PM
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22. i have been fighting rightwing nuts at able2know.com all week with this
i have made them back up a little and change the subject whenever i counter-post this after they post that wilson lied "according the senate committee report."

its always best to know the details when you fight the rhetoric of the right. they think no one is willing to actually go to the sources so they lie with impunity about the actual facts.

it was the same thing when novak said he used the term "operative" all the time when referring to cia persons. it took josh marshall doing a lexis-nexis search to find out novak was lying. again, because he thought no one would take the time to find out that he used the term about intelligence people only if the person was a covert agent.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 12:26 PM
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18. ..to war on INTELLIGENCE FIXED AROUND THE POLICY.
i.e., "flimsy, distorted evidence"
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:20 AM
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23. "Further, the critics say...
... Mr. Wilson's findings on the uranium question were equivocal."

By that logic, my own findings on the Bigfoot question are "equivocal," so I guess it's okay for * to use Bigfoot as another excuse for invading Iraq.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 04:40 AM
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24. Chris Mathews and other RW Shitheads spread LIes!
"Tweety needs to be held accountable for assisting this admin. in spreading around govt. propaganda!"

He's a goddamn liar!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:24 AM
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25. Newt Gingrich just went down the list of Talking Points on NBC's Today!!
He literally was touching on every major point in that memo including the support of Kerry's campaign (like that has anything to do with the price of eggs in Denmark)


:puke: :puke:
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