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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:37 PM
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CNN Just Said That Cat-Killer Won't Back Up Rove
Ed Henry was reporting. Said CK (Cat Killer) said he didn't know enough about the case. What does this mean?
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:38 PM
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1. frist is the video diagnostician remember? He needs to see tape to
define his stance
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:19 PM
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18. LOL. My thoughts exactly.
Show me the tape first and lemme think about it. HA HA HA.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:38 PM
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2. Never mind
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 02:39 PM by liberal N proud
Just figured out who CK is
Thanks
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:39 PM
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5. Bill Frist (nm)
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:39 PM
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6. Bill Frist (R-asshat)
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:40 PM
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7. Cat Killer = Frist
He bragged about "adopting" cats from the animal shelter and using them for vivisection while he was studying medicine.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:05 PM
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14. No matter how many times I hear it, that is just so vile and sick.n/t
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:38 PM
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3. Sounds like he's cuttin' rove loose.
:rofl:
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:38 PM
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4. It means...
That the rats are gingerly stepping away from a sinking ship.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:46 PM
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8. I have a new thread on how high-level Repukes are ducking this
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:48 PM
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9. Karl Rove is becoming radioactive to the Repukes. . .
they won't touch him with a 39-1/2 foot pole.


:evilgrin:
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:49 PM
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10. i'm sure he's stepped on a lot of people a bit too much on the way up
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 02:52 PM by thebigidea
This whole mess gives them good cover to hit back. We should exploit this as much as possible, use him to drive wedges.

And don't let up - this fucker has been at the center of so much evil shit these past years. Payback would be nice.

Frist must've been at the recieving end of a lot of turd blossom's abuse, being Bush's point man in the Senate. He's failed repeatedly.
I'm sure he secretely relishes this.
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:52 PM
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11. Not Enough
More Repunks need to call for Rove's doughy-skulled scalp specifically before something happens. The question is, can they afford to give up Rasputin?
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Wildewolfe Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:11 PM
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16. Whether they can afford it or not
... they will do it. Politics abhores a vacume, and what will be interesting is which repub sharks try to fill the void by putting ideas into our president's empty head.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:53 PM
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12. Case is tenuous. He wants to go on word of WH, but doesn't want burnt,
and he smells a fire. Here's why:


All data suggest that before the grand jury's conclusion that there will be one or more indictments for Rove and at least one more for another "high administration official," resulting to a loss of Republican credibility of being the party or morals and personal responsibility.

We know there were 6 calls because 6 contacts were made (Miller, Cooper, Novak among them). We know 3 contacts confirmed their stories with another "high administration official."

Therefore

1.) 1 man (named Rove by Cooper) made all 6 calls (which reduces the contention of "unknowingly" providing Plame's identity laughable). But he would have had to make sure that there were a few other "high administration officials" ready and willing to confirm his story, which strongly suggests coordination. Did Rove mastermind this portion before "unknowingly" releasing Plame's identity 6 times? Was this coordination "unknowing" as well? What does "knowing" mean? Repeated deliberate acts and coordinating with others for future support suggest a strong and clear intentions. It has knowledgeable design written all over it.

or,

2.) more than 1 person (Rove and at least one other) made the 6 calls. (The fact that one source released Cooper from his agreement of confidentiality but one source did not release Miller suggest at least 2 sources.) Rove would have more to coordinate! To establish guidelines like: No source should call another's contact, Pitch the information off hand, not as the main subject, Make the contact think the source is trying to do him or her a favor ("Don't go too far out on this Wilson thing, I don't want you burnt."), etc. AND Rove would have had to field a group of officials to support the sources stories.

I say Rove coordinated because it is obvious he did so since anyone in the administration in possession of the Plame-Wilson-CIA link would have gone straight to the world master of deceitful politics, and now we know Rove was at least one of the leakers.


So, in the first case we have at least 2 indictments for Rove (exposing and conspiring to expose) and (perhaps) 1 or more indictments for others (confirming and condoning the exposure while furthering it).

But in the second case we have at least 2 for Rove (same as above, but more evidence of conspiracy) and 1 or more clearcut indictments for others (both leakers and confirmers for exposure).

And then we haven't even begun to ask the question of how Rove got the information. (Doesn't leaking the information to him also constitute a crime?) Did Plame give information to officials as one report suggested? Why did Ashbery recluse himself? Did Rove have the proper clearance prior to becoming Deputy Chief of Staff to have seen the material? Or were other federal laws broken to the effect that classified information was used for political purposes? Etc.

I think the great thing we have going for us on this case is Patrick Fitzgerald. By all accounts a fine prosecutor.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:06 PM
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15. If Rove is ever indicted and sent to grand jury, I wonder if
he will need Cheney to go along with him to hold his hand?
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Be Brave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:55 PM
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13. Self-preservation is a very powerful instinct.
Especially for those with weak a weak moral compass.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:16 PM
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17. it means the beginning of the end
of Rove.

Seriously. If Frist won't back him, he's done.

Let's patiently watch the unravelling. It should be a good show!

:popcorn: Want some popcorn?

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:20 PM
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19. Isn't it about time for the new Abu Ghraib videos to come out?
I'd like to get Cat Killer's diagnosis on the mental states of the rape victims depicted therein.
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