I Want To Know Why Colin Powell Is Hiding???

[ChiciB1]

This is a man WHO could spill ALL the beans.

This is a man who professes to love his country, will die for it, but who also seems to have lied his ass off too!

Sorry to offend anyone here, but I USED to have respect for him too! I'm just extremely disappointed that since he left the WH he has zipped his lips about what REALLY went on. He has a lot of answers, but sorry he's chickened out!

I know he works hard on alternative causes, but why keep "mum" about everything?? Do you think he got paid???

[napi21]

1. Not trying to defend Powell, but I think he hated the public eye

and is just happy to be out of it.

[ChiciB1]

2. NOT Good Enough!

I understand your point, but he didn't shy away from it for quite a few years!!!

[Nite Owl]

13. This WH is worse than

any mafia. If his family is being threatened or something like that I could see where he wouldn't stir things up. I used to respect him too but he crossed the line too many times, had too many opportunities to speak out and didn't. He lost his good place in history.

[bribri16]

29. Could Plame be the reason he quit? n/t

[mr_hat]

3. Powell, for all his willingness to be a team player, >

was never part of the inner circle. I doubt he has *anything* to shed on this situation.

[FormerRepublican]

4. Also, keep in mind that there was tension between Powell

...and the Bush Administration. Powell was a centrist in a hard line crew. No doubt he washed his hands of them when he resigned at State. He may, or may not, have been privy to the political schemes that Rove and crew cooked up. He may have been blissfully ignorant of it all.

[ChiciB1]

32. Hi There....

Just saw you again! Wanna go to Wash. D.C. Sept. 24th???

I'm working on it myself!

[bonito]

5. I have always and still do think of collin as a good man.

Worthy of my support.some times you just know about things.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

24. Yes.

:sarcasm:

[tblue37]

25. I wish people would stop

buying the media lies about what a "good man" Powell is. He was the architect of the My Lai coverup, you know. He is the father of former FCC chief Michael Powell, who learned his careerist opportunism from his daddy, whose every move has always been designed to further his own career interests.

[kansasblue]

6. Powell's busy searching for his self respect.

[kenny blankenship]

21. Honestly, I think you got the wrong guy

he wouldn't know what you're talking about.

[Fridays Child]

7. Probably blackmail of some sort.

I've wondered, for a long time, what the bushistas have on Colin Powell.

[dArKeR]

8. I want to know when Chimpy is going to drag out Pickles the Murderer

to try to take some heat of himself? Just before the Coup of 2000 and the hidden drunk driving came out, Chimpy used his daughters as a political shield. He made up the story that he didn't tell the reporters because he didn't want his daughters to know. I'm sure the entire family already knew but using your two own daughters a shield is so sleazy it's something only a Republican Christian could ever do.

Imagine if the truth happened and Chimpy lost. I wonder if the guilt could be so great that his daughter might turn to alcohol or drugs?

Franken talked about Powell today.

I found him here;

[ChiciB1]

15. I'll Be Watching Franken At 11:30 On Sundance

I know it's delayed, but I like to SEE the action. I wish we could see Randi Rhodes, Grafalo and all the rest.

So I'll be watching for the Powell thing.

[Lone_Wolf]

9. Powell made his career out of being a Yes Man...

Don't count on him spilling the beans anytime soon.

[mattclearing]

10. I believe it was Aaron McGruder who pointed out...

...that Powell personally helped to kill some 100,000 Iraqis in the Gulf War and we consider him the "moderate" one.

[90-percent]

11. Colin

If he really wanted to serve his country he'd devote his entire being to bringing this adminstration down. His silence borders on treason.

-85%

[ChiciB1]

14. So He IS Hiding!!

Shame, shame! Hey, he's not even doing the "military" thing for the soldiers!!!

I was brought up in a military family and that's ONE thing you learn. Do NOT desert!! I feel badly that so many soldiers got duped! I for one made up my mind that after living that life until I left home, that I would NEVER want to get back into it! My father used to try to fix me up with men that he commanded. NO, NOT... I pass!

But then I'm a female and I'm sure that makes a difference. I have no need for the "rush" of adrenalin that so many talk about!

[kansasblue]

19. his duties weren't military at State Dept

I honor those who serve and agree that you 'never desert'. But he was a civilian with a duty to lead the State Dept in the best interest of the country, not just 'yes sir' us into a war.

[ngant17]

16. Powell's hands were probably bloody even before the Panama invasion

This was a guy who started his military career as the replacement for Lt. Calley of My Lai, Vietnam infamy.

Wasn't the El Chorrito district of Panama City(devastated by the US military invasion of '89) a largely black-working class area? I don't think he feels bad about that, though. I wonder if he has any desire to visit his old haunts.

[ChiciB1]

17. I NEVER Knew About The Calley Thing!!

And I remember Calley!! I say it all the time, you learn something NEW everyday, IF YOU WANT TO!!

Well, that puts the icing on my cake!

[kenny blankenship]

27. Powell was a Major planning field operations

in divisional headquarters, inflating bodycounts with civilian corpses counted as combatants and so forth. He didn't replace any Lt. in the field after My Lai. He was giving that Lt. plans to follow. He didn't give Calley orders but drew up plans that became the Lieutenant's orders. (I'm not saying the massacre was part of Powell's plans--just establishing his place in the foodchain.) After the head of the Army received a letter from a enlisted man alledging atrocities in Vietnam, Powell was tasked with whitewashing the reports of massacres in the general area of Americal operations--ie, cleaning a blot off of his OWN record before it was allowed to stain. The massacre everyone remembers had already happened, but somehow Colin Powell found no evidence of it. In this event, the one Calley was tried for, we would eventually learn that dozens of unarmed Vietnamese women, kids, and old folks had been machinegunned. Girls were raped, then killed. The mass rape and massacre went on for four hours. A helicopter crew ended it by facing down the whole company and threatening to fire on them. Now, that doesn't seem like the kind of event that's easy to keep quiet. People will talk about that kind of thing, particularly when it ends with Americans pointing M-60 machineguns at each other. But like I say, Powell only exposed the whistleblower and brushed the stories of atrocities aside.

One of those who was there, Ron Ridenhour, refused to let Powell's whitewash stand, and after his discharge he began to interview other participants who like himself were by then back in the states. As a result of his work, the Army finally did a real investigation and the lid came off both within the Army and on Capitol Hill. Of course what was investigated was the single incident at My Lai 4. The original letter, from specialist Tom Glen, which required Colin Powell to get out his whitewash bucket and brush had alleged that many such incidents were ocurring as a routine matter in Americal Division--Americal soldiers shot at fleeing civilians for sport, villagers' huts were shot up in passing with no military justification, and no warning to those inside, and so on. Good background information on Powell and his role in VN can be found here

[ChiciB1]

31. This IS All New To Me....

You obviously have a keen interest in military matters, or of course you are a veteran. At the time of My Lai, I lived at Ft. Hood, TX and had only a smattering of info about the incident, but enough that I was outraged.

Looking back, by what I just read and by what you have stated here, it's much clearer NOW why so many people attacked me for talking negatively about the incident. I think I mentioned I was raised as an Army brat, and my father was stationed at Ft. Hood for quite some time. I was there when Jane Fonda arrived, but there were many who supported her at that time. Why was that? I don't know. I was young, and my interest in politics was taking shape then, but I'm afraid I missed a lot. Viet Nam was a catalyst because of where I lived. But my father introduced me to politics when I was about 12. He was a life-long Democrat and I followed his lead!

But I read the Pentagon Papers and still have that old paper-back book. As with many BOOMERS, my true induction regarding Viet Nam began in '69 & '70, but I WAS aware earlier that I didn't like what was going on. I lost friends in that war and think I was more than outraged during the last election by the Swift-Boaters. THEY lied and I do know that.

You can imagine what it was like living in Killeen (Ft. Hood) at that time. The 1st & 2nd AD were still there then! So even then I was on the fringe! I still have high school friends there, and they haven't changed. A few have, but for the most part... they toe the line!

I have seen quite a few documentaries about Viet Nam and learned about the underground tunnels that drove Americans crazy. But this was AFTER the fact. I was a busy young mother, albeit leaned left even then.

But this information about Powell is truly an eye-opener! I had NO idea, and I don't recall hearing his name coming to the fore at the time. But facts are facts and he basically is doing now what he's ALWAYS done.

It's 1:00 A.M. here July 13, 2005 and I'm still learning about Viet Nam! WOW!

Thanks again! Guess we won't be seeing Powell anytime soon!!!

[wli]

26. no stranger to whitewashing

Remember My Lai?

[jedr]

12. Colin is known as"the good soldier",

he did what he was told to do ,but he ruined his credibility with his U.N. speech and faded into the unknown. I doubt if he will go on any crusade for righting the wrong done by Rove ....He will simply remain a "Good soldier"

[kenny blankenship]

18. Colin Powell is a twice confirmed war criminal

and that's before Shrub came to town and made him his pretend Secretary of State. Powell accepted his position as token black man quietly no matter what insane bullshit they required of him. Mostly they required only that he sit in the window wave at people and be almost black. Colin Powell seemed to just accept it though, just as he accepted the Nixon Administration's invitation into politics while Nixon was running on his "Southern Strategy" of appealing to whites in the south turned off by the Democratic Party's record of enacting Civil Rights and Voting Rights.

It's important to explain that Colin Powell is a warcriminal. After the first reports of the massacres in Vietnam, which are generally known to the public by reference to the single "My Lai 4" episode, Maj. Colin Powell of Americal Division provided the Army's initial coverup. Powell basically said, "it didn't happen and relations with civilians in the area in question are good", and for two and a half years that closed the matter as far as the Army was concerned. Powell never interviewed the soldier who made the accusations. But somewhat like Karl Rove Powell told the soldier's superior officers who squealed about the massacre, thus making a target of the whistleblowing soldier. Very soon after his report, before the Congressional investigation would lay bare the partial truth about Vietnam War atrocities, Powell received an invitation from Casper Weinberger to come work for Nixon's OMB. What plucked Colin Powell from obscurity and not someone else? The ease with which he could lie about gravely serious crimes perhaps. Let it never be said the Republicans can't spot their kind of talent, or that they don't reward 'good workers', especially among minorities. Ken Blackwell no doubt has been looking to ride the same gravy train.

But there's more to his criminal record. During the Reagan-Bush years, Powell lied to special counsel Lawrence Walsh's Grand Jury when he said that Casper Weinberger had no "daybook" in which he recorded his meetings, conversations, reviews of important papers. The daybook was key to establishing Weinberger's --and President George Herbert Walker Bush's-- knowledge of illegal missile transfers to Iran. Powell asserted he had personal knowledge of all important papers coming in or out of Weinberger's office, and according to him there was no daybook. After Bush pardoned Weinberger (thus protecting himself) Casper Weinberger's NONEXISTENT daybook turned up on a shelf in the Library of Congress. Powell was never prosecuted for perjury or criminal involvement in Iran-Contra.

So here's a guy who has covered up warcrimes in Vietnam (the massacre of hundreds of unarmed old people, women and children) and participated in and covered up for a plot to violate Congressional bans on arms shipments to Iran, arms shipments that would fund terrorists in Central America. None of this is secret at all, it's just not spoken of in polite company. And this guy gets to be SECRETARY OF STATE. Except of course, he was only secretary when Bush needed him to foist some lies onto the UN about Weapons of Mass Destruction. Does any of that bother Powell? I'd guess only the token status he had as a black in the redstate Presidency that is as white as a Klansman's robe. If they'd just let him, he'd probably have done more to advance Bush's Invisible Empire. He knew Iraq was not such a good idea, true enough--but don't confuse this guy with another type of person who would oppose the Iraq invasion because of moral qualms.

[KoKo]

20. And, his son Michael Powell who was placed as head of FCC under

Clinton. His career as a young Repug Clone (he talks exactly like the rest of them with that Bush Speak) would be very hampered by his daddy speaking out about anything. Between the McClellan family Scotty and the brother at the FDA and Daddy Powell at State and son Michael at FCC the nepotism was enough and is enough to keep lips sealed. We don't know how many other sisters and brothers or parents and children are all serving together in the Bushie Administration, but the ones we know about like the aforementioned and Cheney's daughter are enough to raise questions. Bush Crime Family is like the Mafia. Code of Silence and honor to "family."

[ChiciB1]

23. I WILL Admit That I Never Suspected the Enormity Of His

Ass-Kissing. I know some of you will be offended by that remark, but I've been totally upset with this man. It was only a little over 4 years ago that ALMOST everyone... Dems & Repukes would have willingly voted for him as President.

Your comments here tell me EXACTLY why he will never run. Too much garbage in his past, and I suppose he knows that better than anyone!

Thanks for you input, I now see things much more clearly. He IS NOT the man that was presented to America, or other nations. In fact, now I see him as just ANOTHER shill of "the corrupt ones"! But his wife is an admitted Democrat, the last time I heard. That's weird too!

It's really amazing that with all the homage he has paid through the years, that this administration has even managed to tick HIM off! I should have dug a little deeper a loooooonnng time ago.

Now I KNOW why he's hiding! Many Thanks!

[LiviaOlivia]

22. Powell's working on his 'Village People' act.

next stop Vegas, baby!

[WhiteTara]

28. Well, he told his share of lies

and I don't think he wants to go there with chimpy and friends.
:shrug:

[Bullwinkle925]

30. You're a mindreader. I've been thinking the very same thing.

Is he totally under wraps somewhere? Bound and gagged, perhaps?

[TahitiNut]

33. He's not hiding. Chimpy knows he can go for dinner any evening.

Perhaps to remind Colin to stay "in his place"? :eyes:

[ChiciB1]

34. I DID Hear Him Say That...

It's late, I'm outta here for now!
BBL